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The concurrence of three climatic events

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Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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This isn’t moving that slowly any more.

It’s moving super slowly, and if nothing is done by the end of the century, we’ll be slightly worse off than we are now.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling, in denial, or just very naive.

Climate change is already causing economic damage and the loss of lives. This isn’t some theoretical future problem.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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This guy's blog is subtitled "Eliot Jacobson's Collapse of Everything Blog". Is this his schtick? Does he just say the world is ending all the time, or is what he's saying true?

>Does he just say the world is ending all the time, or is what he's saying true?

These two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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For what it’s worth, the average interpretation I’ve seen from climate scientists is: - No, we won’t hit scorched earth Venus-like runaway warming. - If we don’t reduce emissions drastically, greenhouse gas warming plus various feedbacks will cause extreme weather, render some parts of the world unlivable due to wet bulb temperature, and overwhelm unprepared infrastructure, costing huge amounts of money and creating…

Millions of migrants seems a massivly optimistic view. I suspect it will be well over a billion in 10 years.

Well, this is when the military budget of many countries will be put to a test, for real this time. After all, the reason to keep investing into military force is to be able to defend sovereignty. It is a harsh thought, no question, but we have to admit that we always prepared for this case. Sure, the left is trying to make it a humanitarian thing, but in the end, available space and resources will determine how much the people of a country are willing to accept foreigners. Right now, this "game" is very much leaning in favour of the left, however, one day, it will pivot, and then there will be only tears. The real question is, will you be able to migrate before the borders are closed with military force?

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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He forgot the 4th event - Social Contagion Resulting in Climate Sensationalism. Can we please have a realistic discussion on climate change? I'm so sick of these "scientists" acting like we're in "Day After Tomorrow" and every normal weather event is suddenly a precursor to the Armageddon that'll take us all out in the next decade or less. You scientifically cannot look at individual weather events and determine they…

> every normal weather event

San Francisco and the PNW being covered by smoke every summer is not a normal weather event, and now it is starting on the East coast. The east and southeast is also being hit harder by hurricanes, and they are not stopping at the Gulf of Mexico any more. These are just the events people have been able to see in the US in past years and they're not normal and with ever-increasing carbon output it is undoubtedly going to get worse.

I'll take the entire northeast being covered in smoke as an "over the top" claim that just came true.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn’t moving that slowly any more.

It’s moving super slowly, and if nothing is done by the end of the century, we’ll be slightly worse off than we are now.

Uncontrolled fires in the arctic circle along with every continent aside from Antarctica? Yeah, that doesn't sound apocalyptic at all!

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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He forgot the 4th event - Social Contagion Resulting in Climate Sensationalism. Can we please have a realistic discussion on climate change? I'm so sick of these "scientists" acting like we're in "Day After Tomorrow" and every normal weather event is suddenly a precursor to the Armageddon that'll take us all out in the next decade or less. You scientifically cannot look at individual weather events and determine they…

If someone tells you that cigarettes are going to give you cancer the fact that you aren't dead yet isn't a good indication that they are wrong. Furthermore the climate is incredibly complex. Waiting until we are absolutely certain of the exact trajectory of our fuckery will surely result in us being too fucked to take much corrective action. Basically you are asking to much and you're wrong.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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I read the whole article. I looked at all the graphs and charts. I still don't understand the near term significance, even with the detailed explanations. Assuming I'm exactly average, that means 50% of the population won't understand it either. Of that 50%, how many will actually care? Nothing will happen until it is too late. His final words weren't encouraging and I can't say I feel any better either.

I know that this is HN but this isn’t an IQ-guarded secret. People not “getting it” is based on denial and/or a misguided Culture War politics (those people say it is so, and therefore it is not so), not lack of smarts.

Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it’s worth, the average interpretation I’ve seen from climate scientists is: - No, we won’t hit scorched earth Venus-like runaway warming. - If we don’t reduce emissions drastically, greenhouse gas warming plus various feedbacks will cause extreme weather, render some parts of the world unlivable due to wet bulb temperature, and overwhelm unprepared infrastructure, costing huge amounts of money and creating…

Millions of migrants seems a massivly optimistic view. I suspect it will be well over a billion in 10 years.

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Re: The concurrence of three climatic events

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I read the whole article. I looked at all the graphs and charts. I still don't understand the near term significance, even with the detailed explanations. Assuming I'm exactly average, that means 50% of the population won't understand it either. Of that 50%, how many will actually care? Nothing will happen until it is too late. His final words weren't encouraging and I can't say I feel any better either.

> near term significance The North Atlantic heat flux of the air-ocean interface changed and some one more knowledgeable might tell how many terajoule stay in the atmosphere a little bit longer probably altering the weather pattern as we like to know them.

Ireland is going to have a warm and lovely summer, which is not it's usual climate pattern, leading to water shortages and peat bog /wild fires.
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