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Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

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post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

A meme pointing out that u/spez was a mod of r/jailbait in 2008 was the top post on r/all a few hours ago

Nobody likes spez and reddit is the worst of the worst in terms of what the Internet could be and what it is. Reddit is where know nothings pontificate as if they were experts on anything and everything while congratulating each other. It used to be a great site, now I'm ashamed I ever used it and I'm embarrassed for people who mention they use it.

That said, that meme is propaganda and defamation. Anyone could add anyone as a mod anywhere for a time, and violentacrez added spez "for the lulz" or however people like that think. I'd be beside myself it there's evidence that he was an active moderator working on that sub. Although, given the prevailing winds of the modern left, in a few years he'll probably be trying to claim that he was.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#172
post #6

Lots of speculation on Twitter about this—a failed attempt to re-open all closed subreddits and instate their own moderators. I can't imagine it'd be that, although I do enjoy the conspiracy, and more likely they were using the window of reduced traffic to make some larger changes and they went awry

A meme pointing out that u/spez was a mod of r/jailbait in 2008 was the top post on r/all a few hours ago

It's worth noting that a very old user (/u/andrewsmith1986 IIRC) responded that at that time it was possible to add arbitrary users as mods without needing interaction/feedback/etc. from the user in question. If that was the case, then any user being a mod on any particular sub at that time doesn't really mean much.

Obviously I can't reference the comment in question right now, but I'll try to remember to circle back and add a reference when(/if?) Reddit comes back up.

Edit: /u/andrewsmith1986's comment can be found at https://old.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/1477psa/all_3_ar...

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#173
post #33

There's a spike on Downdetector's chart: https://downdetector.com/status/reddit/ Nothing on redditstatus.com (yet?): https://www.redditstatus.com/ UPD Currently on redditstatus.com: >Reddit Failing to Load >Identified - We're aware of problems loading content and are working to resolve the issues as quickly as possible. Jun 12, 2023 - 07:58 PDT

I don't understand why they decided to remove the errors and post/comment backlog graphs instead of fixing them. It was a great way to see when to stop refreshing and go make coffee, while status remained green for while.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't seem that unbelievable when you look into some of the other stuff he's done. For example he secretly used his admin powers to edit user comments from users he didn't like or who criticized him.

I don't like what he's done one bit, nor him personally, but this is a really big stretch and not really the level of comment HN should strive for. EDIT: to clarify -- a big stretch to connect editing comments (which was well-known to have happened) with other actions.

He admitted to doing it.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/23/reddit-huffman-trump/

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like what he's done one bit, nor him personally, but this is a really big stretch and not really the level of comment HN should strive for. EDIT: to clarify -- a big stretch to connect editing comments (which was well-known to have happened) with other actions.

Parent commenter shouldn't have said secretly. That was something he openly admitted to doing. https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/23/13739026/reddit-ceo-stev...

I believe the issue the commenter above was taking was that just because someone commits, for lack of a better term, comment fraud, we shouldn't jump to suggesting he's also a paedophile.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#176
Pure speculation on my part, but I bet they're getting hugged. Just a good ol' fashion "traffic pattern has changed and now you're being hugged to death," at a scale not even Reddit can rapidly address.

My guess is it's caused by (but indirectly) the Reddit Strike. Here's the thing: because Reddit doesn't require you to be logged in to see posts in most subreddits (especially the most popular ones), having those subs go private has caused a bunch of poorly-maintained automated infrastructure to hit its barely-tested retry/fallback code. How many repeater / archiver bots for subreddits are out there? Who knows. So now a bunch of bespoke, heterogeneous bots are saying "Oh, I got a nonstandard response from that page... Probably a transient issue, I'll try again in 30 seconds with no backoff. And of course, I'm faking my thumbprint to just look like a regular Chrome instance so I don't trip the bog-standard bot detection that'd stop me from doing what my creator wants me to do."

So I bet Reddit admins woke up today to a firestorm of continuously-failed-retried queries and they're having to figure out how to separate wheat from chaff in realtime.

A related, but different, potential explanation: Reddit never had to test at scale the performance of bouncing users from private subreddits and it turns out that query is itself expensive for some reason that didn't come up in small-scale testing, so now Reddit's own infrastructure is setting itself aflame as the world is waking up, pinging the most popular subreddits, and triggering a near-query-of-death every time they do it.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#178

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'Reddit finally finds a way to become profitable' is not what's going on. Reddit's own claims are conflicting, they simultaneously argue that other apps are causing them massive losses in terms of opportunity cost while arguing that they represent an insignificant portion of users. They've argued that the apps are too inefficient in their API usage while their own app is no better, and despite their claims, they demonstrably haven't tried to actually work with app devs to resolve this.

On top of that they're making these changes without having addressed the issues the 3rd party tools exist for despite having promised to do so for many years now. Them later backpedaling and attempting to carve out special exemptions for those only makes them look worse.

It'd be a lot less egregious if they were like Twitter and just said the obvious about how they didn't want to allow 3rd party apps anymore. Instead they're engaged in this scummy game of lies about how they really want to work with the community, so it makes perfect sense that the community is opposing them.

Re: Reddit.com appears to be having an outage

#180

Reddit being gone for a while actually makes me feel like the world is a better place. Somehow knowing even for a brief moment no one is there and I’m not missing out on anything makes me feel… more alive and excited to interact with the world. sounds bizarre I know… but I wish more social media shut down now.

I propose shutting down all social media on Wednesdays, indefinitely.

(Sure, this idea is taken from Ready Player One, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea!)

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