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Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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I like this. Speaks to my own goal of creating "micro" communities. https://micro.mu . We limit groups to 20 people. I think that's an ideal number for real connections. Need more, it's likely for a different type of communication.

How does this compare to a small discord server? What can it do better?

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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What's with the sudden influx of "smol" things? Is this related to "smol" ML / "smol" AI models, and/or the HN user that (IIRC) is associated with them and likes to use the word "smol" in their comments?

It's just an internet culture word. Pubnix doesn't sound apparent to a lay user, smolnet might.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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What's with the sudden influx of "smol" things? Is this related to "smol" ML / "smol" AI models, and/or the HN user that (IIRC) is associated with them and likes to use the word "smol" in their comments?

It's a cat/dog/animal thing. At least that's where I see "smol" used the most, in relation to kittens and puppies and other newborn animals.

And it's been brewing there for a few years now, and the word's escaping into more contexts.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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What's with the sudden influx of "smol" things? Is this related to "smol" ML / "smol" AI models, and/or the HN user that (IIRC) is associated with them and likes to use the word "smol" in their comments?

'smol' is just a way of saying small that caught on in certain demographics which is starting to spread further, much like any other slang.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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post #21
post #5

I like this. Speaks to my own goal of creating "micro" communities. https://micro.mu . We limit groups to 20 people. I think that's an ideal number for real connections. Need more, it's likely for a different type of communication.

How does this compare to a small discord server? What can it do better?

So it's private and invite only by default. There is no element of "public" and the focus is on real connections with people you know rather than people you've never met in person. There's also no notifications or "is typing". The goal is really not to try emulate existing chat or bombard you with the need for immediate replies. It's a lot more focused on how most of our lives and mine personally operates now which is with less reaction and more laid back. Group sizes are also capped at 20.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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One thing I've worried about with self-hosting small (or smol) services is that I'm responsible for securing them against attackers. Even if my circle is 15 people using a particular service, potentially thousands of malicious actors will be poking at it over the months and years I'm running it.

I'm a big fan of self-hosting, especially things that I can run inside my home with no internet-facing ports. But anything that will be outward facing has to be sandboxed from everything else, kept up to date, and monitored for intrusions. It can be daunting unless you definitely have time to stay on top of it. I'm curious if any self-hosters have thoughts about this.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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post #20
post #5

I like this. Speaks to my own goal of creating "micro" communities. https://micro.mu . We limit groups to 20 people. I think that's an ideal number for real connections. Need more, it's likely for a different type of communication.

Trying to use this, I get an error when entering a group. Seems like a cool idea, but it needs to have a lot more functionality to draw me in, I think.

Yea sorry, there's some very random breakages happening right now. Working on it. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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So like a normal website as they always were before all those web 2.0 platforms? That then did a 180 from being platforms and started with "content creators"?

I think so? I'm building the idea out myself as I learn what this is.

If web 2.0 was the introduction of comment systems, and turned each web page into a performance upon a stage, with a goal of audience participation / loudness / re-sharing, and content creating being the evolution of publication to hustling... I think lots of people would be satisfied by a local internet of people they trust, to share ideas in a non-commercial, private, 'safe' way.

But the real magic to me would be not worrying about it being hacked, or deployed, or monitored, or any of the pollutant infrastructure that we got good at, that unfortunately makes everything operational and robust.

Re: The “smolnet”, build for friends and friends of friends

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One thing I've worried about with self-hosting small (or smol) services is that I'm responsible for securing them against attackers. Even if my circle is 15 people using a particular service, potentially thousands of malicious actors will be poking at it over the months and years I'm running it. I'm a big fan of self-hosting, especially things that I can run inside my home with no internet-facing ports. But anything…

As the "Administration" tag for my blog will attest, the sysadmin side does take a lot of work. Every now and then something is down, something needs defending (like the current HN users all clicking on the site which is running without any caches…), and on and on. In my experience, it's not so much cybercriminals that keep me busy but bad programmers that write spiders that treat every website in the world like corporate infrastructure. Stuff like git, cgit, radicale, a bunch of web apps, a netnews server, an IRC server, those things aren't tricky. But of course I also decided not to host mail, matrix, Next Cloud and so on. You need to pick your battles, too.
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