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Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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Maybe it's just me but I don't really want to think about work outside of working hours, much less hang out or 'unwind' with my coworkers before or after work.

Nobody said it was outside of working hours.

you just said food or drinks before or afterwards. people don't have food in the middle of the day after a meeting.

Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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> It might be useful to "all be in the room" when brainstorming. Really? what does it bring that you can't do remotely? I can hardly think of a problem where "being in the same room" is a requirement to have a productive discussion

It's not a requirement, but it helps a lot. The biggest factor might be latency, which makes it much harder to informally coordinate multiple people talking without speaking over each other.

Gee, I wonder how people worked before we had Zoom calls and we were all working in different locations across the country. Either people were really smart before, or we have become really dumb now.

Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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I'm pro work from anywhere so long as shit gets done but... Picking up on social cues. Bouncing ideas around using a whiteboard. Speaking quickly without that ever so slight lag on Zoom which means you struggle to get a word in without potentially talking over somebody. Having food or drinks before or afterwards to unwind and build relationships and kick things around informally. There's lots more.

> Having food or drinks before or afterwards That's not work. That should NEVER be part of work, even.

You sound joyful to work with.

Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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> No, this is FAANG, every building is open office layout, it'd be rude & disrespectful to your colleagues around who are busy coding. But at the same time it's perfectly okay to just come up to your busy colleague and pester them about something, because collaboration.

It isn’t okay, but there’s enough nonverbal cues you can use to determine whether someone is busy at their desk.

I can be just as busy at a watercooler away from my screen. That’s not the point. I think that all of the arguments in this conversation, whether they are valid or not, are not at all relevant to the purpose of the conversation.

I have this wild guess that if a significant number of companies cut their leases on all those monstrous office spaces that are kept being built all the time, it could hurt some people with important companies a fucking lot, and the ripple effect could prove to be immense and disastrous.

Spice must flow, and the fact that there are parties interested in those office spaces running and bringing money in has diddly to do with whether there are any actual productivity advantages of bringing the office workers back to the office or not.

For enough dough you can buy enough experts and pundits and other talking heads that will overflow the information space with thinkpieces and analyses that go either way.

Meanwhile, the only actual productivity boost is when you have a private office with a closable door within walking distance from your living place. But it’s not like anybody would give you _that,_ plebeian.

Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

#365

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I'm pro work from anywhere so long as shit gets done but... Picking up on social cues. Bouncing ideas around using a whiteboard. Speaking quickly without that ever so slight lag on Zoom which means you struggle to get a word in without potentially talking over somebody. Having food or drinks before or afterwards to unwind and build relationships and kick things around informally. There's lots more.

> Having food or drinks before or afterwards That's not work. That should NEVER be part of work, even.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and/or flamebait? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

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Re: Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

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> Having food or drinks before or afterwards That's not work. That should NEVER be part of work, even.

You sound joyful to work with.

Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse.

Also, please don't cross into personal attack on HN.

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