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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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One month old, but still very interesting. The admin confirmation is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/help/comments/135tly1/comment/jim40...

I only access Reddit via old.Reddit They seem to have broken the back button now on iOS/safari. I’m sure it wasn’t like that a few weeks ago.

Yes, despite assuming that old.reddit.com was static, it doesn't seem to be. Periodically they tweak something about it and break it a little more. Trying to convince people to stop using it I guess.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#502

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Let's not forget that the in-app browser page can be injected with whatever javascript the owner of the app wants. FB/Instagram use this for tracking. There is a more comprehensive list of what apps do this somewhere; I do not remember where it is. But for FB/Meta, you can find the info here: https://krausefx.com/blog/ios-privacy-instagram-and-facebook...

Worth pointing out that not all in-app browsers are created equal, however. A huge number of apps, probably the majority, on iOS use SFSafariViewController for theirs, which is basically an isolated Safari tab that runs out of process and app developers have no access to. Furthermore, SFSafariViewController instances are unique per-app, each with their own separate set of cookies so apps can’t trick you into visiting…

The question is, is there any way for the user to tell the difference just by looking? Or is that something you have to be able to examine the binary to be able to determine?

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#503

They are desperately trying to be TikTok. It will not work and has no chance of working. Look at their hilariously terrible acquisition of Dubsmash for $50 million (they converted it to a subreddit with 1.5k subscribers when they had 200 million users at their peak and touted having 25% of black teens in their acquisition press release. Every post is people saying the Reddit app sucks and asking where Dubsmash went)

It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. I use Facebook mainly for hobby/owners groups these days as that's where a lot of them are. I sometimes use the market place. My feed is mainly my interests, motorbikes, local events, local cafes/restaurants etc etc. Then there's reels i never interact with which get forced on me…

>Not shorts but similar is I used Spotify for many years then it started forcing Podcasts on me as Podcasts where the hot thing. On my homepage where I had music which was relevant to me I had to hunt around to find my music as my homepage was full of podcasts I had no interest in so eventually cancelled my membership.

Back when I got my car, I installed an Android Auto head unit and justified a Spotify subscription because I could easily navigate the AA app and play any music I wanted.

I had a major breakpoint one day driving home from work, and there was *no* music on my main page anywhere. I had to scroll 3 full pages down to get past all the podcasts they were trying to get me to listen to. After that I just canceled my sub and went back to buying/downloading my music, 2007-style.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…

Push notifications! Super valuable for driving re-engagement.

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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#505

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Worth pointing out that not all in-app browsers are created equal, however. A huge number of apps, probably the majority, on iOS use SFSafariViewController for theirs, which is basically an isolated Safari tab that runs out of process and app developers have no access to. Furthermore, SFSafariViewController instances are unique per-app, each with their own separate set of cookies so apps can’t trick you into visiting…

The question is, is there any way for the user to tell the difference just by looking? Or is that something you have to be able to examine the binary to be able to determine?

Yes, the one that is “clean” has the open in Safari icon. However, as soon as that becomes common knowledge I’m guessing the malicious apps will be adding that icon

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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The web puts the user in control; apps (on all significant platforms currently existing) put the company in control. Yes, Google and (especially) Apple may force Reddit to comply with this or that, but Google and (especially) Apple also prevent the user from doing all sorts of things they can do with an open platform like the web. Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent track…

> apps are roughly the opposite of that Although I broadly agree with this assessment, I'd just like to add a slight nuance that, at least in my view, it's specifically _app store apps_ that are roughly the opposite. You can still, for example, install random APKs (on Android, I doubt Apple has anything similar) if you're so inclined, so they can be as user-centric as you want. It's just that the major manufacturers…

I would still say that even FOSS apps off F-Droid are less user-centric than the web. They're more likely to respect the user, for sure, than even most web apps. And a user who is comfortable with code can always fork them and customize them. But the barrier to entry for a custom experience is much higher on an app than it is on the web. Browser extensions are highly accessible to many people and can allow tweaking the experience beyond what the developer natively enabled.

As a simple example: Dark Reader has 5 million installs on Chrome. That's 5 million people who can view a web app in dark mode even if the developers didn't think to provide a native way to do so.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. I use Facebook mainly for hobby/owners groups these days as that's where a lot of them are. I sometimes use the market place. My feed is mainly my interests, motorbikes, local events, local cafes/restaurants etc etc. Then there's reels i never interact with which get forced on me…

They're just preparing for the inevitability of the US banning TikTok. And to nobody's surprise US tech will be primed to offer their TikTok clone.

Reddit cannot even deliver video properly on its own app, if TT is banned, there are at least 3 other apps that will crush it from a video standpoint.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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>I did this with facebook and it obliterated my social connections. Huh... I did this with Facebook and it basically changed nothing. I was forced to text my friends life updates, that was it. Out of every social media site I've quit, Facebook seemed to have the lowest impact on my life(as long as I or my wife checked it every 1-3 weeks for Events). It seems Facebook has an ability to make you feel popular without ac…

whoa, you’ve really opened my eyes! i’ve now realized my lived personal experience is invalid gonna take your advice and cut off the people i’ve met because hospitalJail is skeptical! Appreciate you providing insight into my life

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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. I use Facebook mainly for hobby/owners groups these days as that's where a lot of them are. I sometimes use the market place. My feed is mainly my interests, motorbikes, local events, local cafes/restaurants etc etc. Then there's reels i never interact with which get forced on me…

> It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. > ... > It's sad when every tech company tries to replicate another companies features ditching the very thing which their users originally joined them for. I wonder if we might give this a name like "tradegy of the social networks". It's easy to see how a company, like Meta/Ins…

This has happened before. I joined FB and Twitter when they were new, and loved the interaction with people I knew, people in my city and some very few online-only acquaintances. Both over time pushed people into following random people they have no real connection with, and that is now how they work.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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They ended that way too early. There is so much good content to write about now. I know it’s hard to transition, but do you really need (near) the full cast still?

The show didn't really survive the firing of T.J. Miller and flanderization was coming hard. But yes it would be great to have the show nowadays with a fresh look at the current environment.

Unless TJ Miller was also a writer on the show, he wouldn't have been able to save the last season.
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