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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by Bluecobra »

marban wrote: post #77

I was the creator of the OG Popurls which at the time was the #1 traffic driver for Reddit and Digg; and also created Twidroid the very first Android Twitter client which became one of the reasons for shutting down 3rd party apps after its acquisition. Since I'm a sucker for anything old-school Web, I've been working on a Digg 1.0 rehash for a while now so if any of you wants to beta test let me know.

Speaking of old school web, I once got on the front page of Digg with a mock-up of what Digg would have looked like in the 90s. Sadly that seems to have been lost in the sands of time.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by itronitron »

rurban wrote: post #6

I like that you could use swear words by paying for it. > You can purchase FarkUnits for $10 for 100 FUs, or you can get a discount if you purchase in bulk. > Using it is easy. If you type a word with "fuck" or "shit" in your comment, a new button will pop up that says "Add Comment using SwearJar - 20FUs." Just click or tap that and those words won't be filtered to the customary 'fark' or 'shiat.'

Reminds me of the dialogue in the movie Johnny Dangerously which made it past censors because many of the lines were spoken with very thick accents. For example, 'you fargin ice-awhole' ...

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by rsynnott »

jwrallie wrote: post #22
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

There were times like this in the past (the changes when Pao became CEO and later the censorship through quarantining of multiple subreddits came to my mind, but there were others). I think the main reason there was no exodus similar to Digg's is not due to good policy on Reddit's side (it became increasingly worse over time) but the lack of a competitor that could quickly scale to receive a migration without going d…

There absolutely have been exoduses from reddit before, and many of the resulting sites still exist.

However, in general, these were driven by Reddit banning some sort of abhorrent content, so they were kinda self-limiting; few normal people would want to use a reddit clone that was 90% populated with the denizens of r/fatpeoplehate or the upskirt people or whatever other sort of horrible weirdos were impacted by reddit's bans.

This is really pretty different, in that it impacts the average user (or at least the average power user) so might potentially lead to more reasonable breakaway communities.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by HWR_14 »

djbusby wrote: post #401
Physkal wrote: post #396

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All major subreddits are protesting Reddit on jun 12 by going private.

Not all. Last I looked it was >50% of the top 200 (and like 3000 total)

Those numbers are usually computed by subreddits going private. More have left old content up but have blocked new posts/comments. Those have not been reflected in your numbers.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by HWR_14 »

randomdata wrote: post #417
joenot443 wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Admin abuse is inherently funny I think you're a very small minority in that opinion, my friend. Perhaps leadership decisions like that are why you refer to your forum in the past tense now?

You will never be able to perfectly tickle everyone's funny bone with a given joke, but most everyone agrees that the role of forums is to offer a funny experience, and a good admin will play a significant role in making that happen. One does not spend their preciously scarce free time on an Internet forum if there is nothing funny about it.

I don't usually go on forums to look for funny things. I'm there because people talk about things I'm interested in.

> One does not spend their preciously scarce free time on an Internet forum if there is nothing funny about it.

By your own metrics, HN is often a failure and you should not (or do not) spend time here.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by stavros »

wsabihi wrote: post #402
stavros wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what happened with r/programming (I couldn't find the mod channel), but I just took it private, assuming the other mods just forgot about it. Then again, it's spez's subreddit, so maybe he wants it public (in which case he can just flip it back).

Could you please update the message to "This subreddit is temporarily private as part of a joint protest to Reddit's recent API changes, which breaks third-party apps and moderation tools, effectively forcing users to use the official Reddit app." to raise awareness for the reason you took it private? That would be really helpful!

Hm, I don't see where I can set that, sadly. I don't see a customizable message when I visit the subreddit incognito, either, just a "this is private".

Given that nobody has reverted the change, I assume they'd just forgotten to do it in the first place.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by morkalork »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #371
rurban wrote: post #6

I like that you could use swear words by paying for it. > You can purchase FarkUnits for $10 for 100 FUs, or you can get a discount if you purchase in bulk. > Using it is easy. If you type a word with "fuck" or "shit" in your comment, a new button will pop up that says "Add Comment using SwearJar - 20FUs." Just click or tap that and those words won't be filtered to the customary 'fark' or 'shiat.'

I preferred Something Awful's payment system, where you could pay to publicly shame other users for poor behavior

The extra smart thing was making users pay to undo it so it could go back and forth as long as users had money to spend and an axe to grind. Though making a source of revenue proportional to the level of drama may had some negative impact on toxicity. And yet still somehow less toxic than places like 4chan?

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by slumberlust »

goykasi wrote: post #298
zouhair wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as Reddit's powerusers are still hoping for a retraction it won't, but if Reddit keep at it, I can see the move happening, especially for the big (over 500K) subreddits.

Lemmy is falling over with less than 100k users. How are they magically going to handle 5x, 10x, 100x? The platform is maybe interesting, but the devs need to own up to the fact that they dont have a scaling story -- written in rust is not a valid answer. Instances are already deciding not to federate, theres no network-wide search, signup flows sound ridiculous (pick server and write an essay? yah no), how do i move…

This take seems short sided, at best. Because we don't have a perfect solution with zero friction to swap to, we shouldn't try? Most new tech goes through growing pains, including reddit back in the day.

It's fine to be critical, but it's important to foster an environment that encourages growth and competition. Have electric cars sucked for the last decade? Yes, but we should still invest and promote them as they offer a better future.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by RWSen »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #163
rapsey wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is the business model is terrible. You need to sell ads to survive and the ads ruin the site.

I would say the problem is that the user base are low value users. They're the sort of people who will do a mass protest because one for-profit company wants to charge another for-profit company money. Advertisers don't want to advertise to them, seriously. Any other company with a different user base with that amount of users and traffic would be making a billion a year easily. Probably multiple billions. But Reddit…

You're not wrong: reddit probably needs to raise their income, which means monetising their users more.

The biggest issue most vocal users (including many mods and developers of third party apps like Apollo) have, is that the prices are much higher then the expections reddit set beforehand and that everything was only communicated 30 days in advance.

If reddit wanted to keep third party apps, but have them pay for the users use of reddit, they could have implemented a transition plan. Or make it work another way. Or charge a realistic amount (you yourself state reddit's users are low value, but reddits is asking for $20 million per year in missed monetisation just for Apollo's users, which is very high value).

Instead, reddit seems to approach this aggressively, signalling through their actions that they intend to kill off all third party apps. That's what the the subs going dark are protesting against. Especially since reddit's own site and app are of significant lower quality.

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