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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…

I work at a company trying to get more people into our app. The logic is completely flawed: "we want more engagement, app users show more engagement than web users, so if we get more users from web into the apps we'll get more engagement". It's obviously completely flawed but the product people and analytics department don't seem to get it. At least we aren't doing hostile stuff to get people into the apps, yet.

A good compromise is to educate users on how to add a shortcut to their homescreen. I don't think people (including product people) know about this feature, and mobile browsers bury it. The pareto principle applies: 80% of stickiness is that icon, which you can get for 20% of the effort of an app.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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They are desperately trying to be TikTok. It will not work and has no chance of working. Look at their hilariously terrible acquisition of Dubsmash for $50 million (they converted it to a subreddit with 1.5k subscribers when they had 200 million users at their peak and touted having 25% of black teens in their acquisition press release. Every post is people saying the Reddit app sucks and asking where Dubsmash went)

It's interesting everything trying to be TikTok. As a user, if I wanted TikTok i'd use TikTok. I don't want TikTok, so I don't use TikTok. I use Facebook mainly for hobby/owners groups these days as that's where a lot of them are. I sometimes use the market place. My feed is mainly my interests, motorbikes, local events, local cafes/restaurants etc etc. Then there's reels i never interact with which get forced on me…

The old Hotelling's two shops next to each other in the middle of the main street.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotelling%27s_law

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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I have been in this A/B test group and I have been in the A/B test group that tries to show a TikTok style feed (one that gets new content based on the content you spent time observing) rather than a normalized upvote based one. Without old.reddit.com, I would have not used reddit. I think it is important to never comply with these forced changes. I think there is a larger discussion on professional ethics to be had.…

I mean... It's not ethical. What discussion needs to be had? If "we" don't like doing those things, why don't "we" find a job doing something we believe in?

Sorry to sound hostile- I think your implicit inclusion of me in your "we" got my back up. Do you personally work on building ad tech or implementing dark patterns? Do you feel you have no alternatives that are accessible to you?

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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The web puts the user in control; apps (on all significant platforms currently existing) put the company in control. Yes, Google and (especially) Apple may force Reddit to comply with this or that, but Google and (especially) Apple also prevent the user from doing all sorts of things they can do with an open platform like the web. Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent track…

> Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent tracking, at least without help from the platform vendor. Adguard does a pretty good job of blocking these things inside of apps.

Adguard costs money and non-tech savy userbase has no idea it even exists, even less how to use it. And that is the userbase they wanna keep, I feel like they are purposely alienating their power-user base.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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I find it funny people have been going on this anti Reddit turning profit crusade, but ignore the fact Reddit is pretty similar to Facebook groups, just has much better ui and indexability And everyone I know in real life who uses Reddit on a daily basis is also in at least 2-3 FB groups. Be it a local mom/dad group, Costco group, the car they own, or something more niche They’re not big Zuckerberg fans but they’re m…

Just because every single comment complaining (rightly) about Reddit’s current behavior does not include a comparison to Facebook does not mean it’s ignored. People can dislike two things at once, and it doesn’t need to necessarily be said. Three, even, if they’re feeling frisky. Unless there’s a post specifically about Reddit and Facebook, then you shouldn’t expect people to even bring up Facebook. It’s at best bare…

FB is highly profitable, Reddit loses money.

The outrage from users that Reddit is trying to do what everyone in the tech industry does makes no sense

And furthermore, if they give up the IPO focus, let’s say they don’t do the obvious and sell to Meta

What do they do? Layoff 80% of employees? Cut down the servers? Obviously if they are going to screw over the investors, no one will give a penny to another funding round

If, theoretically, the investors really don’t have a majority of votes, like someone here mentioned, the 2021 funding round was the last one, Reddit just burns it’s cash until it shuts down

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I dislike how sync Discord is, too. I mean, I don't have time to sit here and chat with people for hours. That is why I'm on HN and Reddit. I read, give it a thought, post some good comments (plus a couple of shitposts) and then I get off my computer. I come back later to check on my responses. Discord just doesn't work for me. I'm not going to scroll through hours of chat, and I'm not going to sit there and watch th…

If Discord tacks on a layer of forum-like discussions besides the chat... It might take over a chunk of current reddit-focused communities. At least for me, personally, that would supply the only thing I still use Reddit for, some of my hobbies have communities on Reddit + Discord and I participate in both, if Discord provided a discussion board to allow a more asynchronous communication I would ditch Reddit complete…

It seems to have something like this. I'm in the CloudFlare community Discord and there seem to be some channels which are message boards. Crappy message boards, though. Just like Slack with threads, I haven't seen evidence of a chat platform adding meaningful async communication that doesn't feel tacked-on.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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man I did this with facebook and it obliterated my social connections. it doesn’t make sense from a micro perspective, game theory sucks man i installed instagram in december and it’s so much easier to make friends. I feel in touch with what’s going on in the community

Are you making new friends or connecting with old ones?

making new friends!

i don’t in my hometown and didn’t go to school near my home state.

old friends get harder to see every passing year. it’s just incrementally harder to stay in touch given the geographical distance. i do text and visit when i can

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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There's something that I don't get about forcing mobile browser users into mobile apps - how does it make sense for the company? They're forcing themselves into a walled garden, where the gardener takes a hefty "app store tax" on your revenues and has countless levers to force you to style the app how it suits their interests, not yours. For some apps, this might still be the best way to gain traction. But if have al…

The web puts the user in control; apps (on all significant platforms currently existing) put the company in control. Yes, Google and (especially) Apple may force Reddit to comply with this or that, but Google and (especially) Apple also prevent the user from doing all sorts of things they can do with an open platform like the web. Users can't block ads in an app. Users can't block telemetry. Users can't prevent track…

Surely there is a way of checking api calls made by an app and blocking those?

I have never looked into this mind

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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3-6 months?

Traditionally 12-18mos... Mo 1-3 is new owners finding all the buried bodies, and restructuring leadership with people they can trust 3-6 mos is learning who is valuable and who is not (overlap with months 1-3) 6-9 mos is predicting how customers will react to X change or Y Change 9-12mos is final legal review of changes, exit packages, PR statements,etc (especially is mass layoffs are involved) 12-18mos is execution…

That's exactly the standard playbook. The acquisition happens, and there is a lot of talk sbout how important it is to keep everything the same, no one getting fired, no real changes except for a few different people to report to. Basically, no one gets fired in the first year while the new owners figure out what's actually going on with their purchase.

After the first year is when people get fired.

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