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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by mrtksn »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #90
mrtksn wrote: post #74

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As much as I would like to believe that boycotts can work, I'm just too cynical after seeing all those boycotts doing nothing. My old.reddit.com homepage hasn't change much. Missing is r/ProgrammerHumor but r/Programming is there, alongside with r/darksky, r/wallstreetbets etc. All the porn seems to be there too, which might actually move some numbers if gone dark. The only sub which I care and it's gone is r/StableD…

Don't forget the international dateline :) The 12th of June is a poorly specified target. But I know that /r/programming has two Reddit administrators as part of the mods, so I'm not surprised they're not going dark.

r/Programming just joined the blackout. Now my homepage is mostly porn and politics.

Let's see what will happen in few days.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by mcmoor »

sedatk wrote: post #35
brokenkebaby wrote: post #5

And what exactly is user-hostile there? It doesn't look beautiful to my tastes, but functionally nothing is particularly complicated to understand.

Infinite scroll, for example, makes it easy to lose your reading progress with a simple refresh/reload. Paged UIs, on the other hand, don’t have that problem.

I'm not even sure if it's 3PA only feature but there's option to hide all posts that you've read (or scrolled past). After finding that feature now i want it everywhere there's infinite scroll because yeah otherwise it's unusable.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by losername_ »

throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #358

Am I the only person who is rooting for all social media to die? (Including this one) The only reason I come here is to find interesting articles, but mostly it's nonsense editorials by extremists, "best practice" by novices, thinly veiled advertisement clickbait by companies, generic news from generic news sites, press releases, Twitter threads... That's most of what is on the front page here. The comments section i…

I too am tantilised by the idea of social media, and most of the newsmedia, going out like a light overnight.

I'd happily see it take businesses whose model rely upon it with them - including this current approach to 'AI' and political campaigning.

Would it be the start of the world or the end?

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by grishka »

blitzar wrote: post #248
HeckFeck wrote: post #178

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I would be happy to give a look through it, email in my bio. I dig that sort of thing, someone did something similar with classic MySpace: https://spacehey.com/ . We just need Bebo back and we're sorted ;)

Hang on ... you left off geocities. The internet is not complete without it.

https://neocities.org: *exists*

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by stereolambda »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #163
rapsey wrote: post #17

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The problem is the business model is terrible. You need to sell ads to survive and the ads ruin the site.

I would say the problem is that the user base are low value users. They're the sort of people who will do a mass protest because one for-profit company wants to charge another for-profit company money. Advertisers don't want to advertise to them, seriously. Any other company with a different user base with that amount of users and traffic would be making a billion a year easily. Probably multiple billions. But Reddit…

I'm not sure how to read your message exactly. If you mean the teenage warez leecher type who doesn't care about wider ramifications for the ecosystem, then sure, not high value. I would hesitate to put the protesters in this category wholesale.

Otherwise wealth correlates somehow with both caring about your interests, and caring about abstract causes, for different reasons and often not in the same people. This is why 1) businesses catering to affluent people are often more cautious about the cheapest tactics (even if they ultimately go for the same results), 2) there is so much public faux political idealism from companies.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by circo »

astrange wrote: post #321
perihelions wrote: post #286

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It's not funny when the victim isn't in on the joke and is distressed by it. (Sure, the victim was (probably) a highly unsympathetic and stupid person. What justification is that? It's schoolyard-bully sociology to attack unsympathetic weirdos. Most bullies grow out of it and live with regrets. But 'spez is a fucking adult! What's he doing lurking in the worst subreddits of (his own) website, searching for prey to ga…

No, whether the user is sympathetic or not isn't important, and I don't think there's anything noble about punishing users you don't like. It's just a misconception about what's important in internet forums. If you're a random free account you sometimes get nobly sacrificed (via admin abuse) for the entertainment of the masses and thus benefit society as a whole. Basically, it's PvP. This is pretty obvious from the d…

If you base your social conduct entirely on what's legal and illegal, you'll become a pariah very fast.

Spez is the perfect example of this. His editing of the comments cemented his reputation as corrupt and stupid, and from then on everything he communicated towards the community received a much stronger backlash than it otherwise would have, regardless of how unpopular the decision actually was.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by astrange »

phpisthebest wrote: post #356
astrange wrote: post #352

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No, but certainly if you think something is a problem you should lobby to make future instances of it illegal. If you don't, it's basically not worth the time of an admin/CEO to care what you think, because they have so much else going on. A common theme on social media is that a group of people care about something and want to ban it, but instead of changing the law, instead they self-enforce their pseudo-laws by ye…

wow.. I dont even know really were to begin to unpack this. So you position is that totalitarianism to the extreme is the only way? That everything, every action, every social convention, every interaction between two people should be under the purview of some law or regulation. I am not a big fan of codes of conduct, as such I damn sure do not want the government creating a law around code of conduct. If some open s…

If you are upset about an interaction between a CEO of a company and a customer of the company, as in this thread, then yes that is the kind of thing we have laws for.

In the other examples there are other levels of "government" that have "regulations" that are more official than nothing that you could lobby. You could get GitHub to change the ToS to require CoC, or Twitter to ban certain kinds of things artists don't like, rather than just be personally mean to other users on the site about it.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by nik282000 »

malermeister wrote: post #264
eastern wrote: post #93

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If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, ignore every carping user and stay laser-focused on that IPO. Being well-liked and poor is waaay worse than being rich and hated. Stay strong

> Being well-liked and poor is waaay worse than being rich and hated. Only if you're an egotistical sellout.

Why yes, I am an average human being!

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by circo »

mrtksn wrote: post #236
BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #226

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No but they still need mods. Otherwise the quality will quickly go so far downhill that no one wants to see use it anymore.

Is finding mods something hard to do?

Yes. Moderating a large sub is a ton of work with no compensation whatsoever.

The biggest sub I mod recently grew to ~10k users, it's German speaking, and covers a pretty niche topic. That sub alone is already a surprising amount of work, and 10k is absolutely tiny.

Automod alone removes 4-5 posts a day, and there's still quite a lot of bot generated, irrelevant, or spammy posts and comments that manage to bypass the filters. I can't imagine the amount of spam that would flow in at a subreddit hundreds of times larger than that.

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