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Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by mrtksn »

joshvm wrote: post #173
mrtksn wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I would like to believe that boycotts can work, I'm just too cynical after seeing all those boycotts doing nothing. My old.reddit.com homepage hasn't change much. Missing is r/ProgrammerHumor but r/Programming is there, alongside with r/darksky, r/wallstreetbets etc. All the porn seems to be there too, which might actually move some numbers if gone dark. The only sub which I care and it's gone is r/StableD…

A lot of the LLM ML communities have moved to Discord for bleeding edge development, as far as I know.

Are there analogues for the subs? I would love to know these Discord channels, maybe there should be a directory for it to make the move away from reddit smoother?

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by evolve2k »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #95
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

Here's my question: Can HN recover from this? It was already getting choppy with the election and cryptocurrency generating huge emotional hellthreads. Then came Musk and Mastodon. Now it's Reddit. HN is just turning into another hub of tech outrage. This site is giving me pain to read now. Want to see a contrast? Look at the comments on this Reddit drama and compare it against the original Digg redesign drama on HN…

I think some context you might be missing is the intimate connection between Reddit and YC. Reddit is a YC story[1][2] and the founders even claim that Reddit was the first YC Company to launch[1]. As far as I understand it Reddit was one of those key early startups that Paul Graham modelled future YC around.

Further reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz, rest-in-peace, was a and highly inflential in his contribution to RSS, Creative Commons, Open Access academic publishing and pushing for an open internet generally. Maybe some see it as a stretch to point to the impact of Aarons work in todays Reddit but the history is there. His story is part of Reddit's story and YC/HN's story.

Reddit is a product of YC and HN has always followed Reddit closely.

Generally available API access has been a defining feature of many HN startups so far. This shift alone, towards a world where big tech are locking out API access and squeezing indie devs, is also of great interest to many who rely on API's for work and play.

It's a perfect storm and we're all watching closely.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPN2vmZl4kA [2] https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/reddit [3] https://www.theverge.com/2012/11/30/3709702/watch-this-reddi...

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by rcxdude »

sznio wrote: post #150
Rebelgecko wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Profit depends on 2 things, revenue and expenses. Reddit has tripled their headcount over the last few years so they can focus on new features like NFTs. If they were concerned about sustainable profitability, IMO they should've kept their headcount around 500 people and tried to grow revenue without totally blowing up their costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if reddit was profitable/at least broke even 8 years ago. Reddit needs 300 people max to run, and they got like 1500.

AFAIK they have never been profitable.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by fransje26 »

blitzar wrote: post #50
boc wrote: post #12

I have a 14yo reddit account, and was a Digg user for years prior to that. While there were scandals like the HDDVD code stuff, ultimately the user-hostile Digg v4 redesign killed it for me- the day they forced it on everyone I never went back. Tonight watching all the subreddits go private is the first time I’ve ever felt like Reddit is the next to die. If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand tha…

If anyone from reddit corporate is reading this, understand that its over. This week is critical to save your personal narrative. No matter what really happened; always tell people you are the person who invented the like button at facebook, not the one who decided to band porn on tumblr.

> ban porn on tumbler

> ban porn on imgur

> ban porn on onlyfans

Oh wait, they were actually smart enough to back-track on the last one..

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

#196

Post by mrtksn »

bpye wrote: post #162
mrtksn wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I would like to believe that boycotts can work, I'm just too cynical after seeing all those boycotts doing nothing. My old.reddit.com homepage hasn't change much. Missing is r/ProgrammerHumor but r/Programming is there, alongside with r/darksky, r/wallstreetbets etc. All the porn seems to be there too, which might actually move some numbers if gone dark. The only sub which I care and it's gone is r/StableD…

Conversely, most of the active subreddits I am subscribed to have gone dark. My front page is down to a handful of different news/politics subreddits that decided not to take part.

I hope you are the kind of the user which Reddit wouldn't want to lose and reconsider the changes then.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by fullspectrumdev »

dontupvoteme wrote: post #153

And before/In parallel to Fark was SomethingAwful, which to my knowledge never did any meaningful redesigns and quasi died out because.. well i'm not even sure why, just a lot of us ended up leaving. Though I guess there's still some skeleton userbase left. Apologies to any goons if i'm misrepresenting things.

People tend to age out of communities like SA, and the site had no real plan or desire to acquire fresh blood.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by Nextgrid »

sznio wrote: post #150
Rebelgecko wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Profit depends on 2 things, revenue and expenses. Reddit has tripled their headcount over the last few years so they can focus on new features like NFTs. If they were concerned about sustainable profitability, IMO they should've kept their headcount around 500 people and tried to grow revenue without totally blowing up their costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if reddit was profitable/at least broke even 8 years ago. Reddit needs 300 people max to run, and they got like 1500.

Considering moderation and basically all community upkeep is relegated to unpaid volunteers, even 300 is a lot.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by rgoulter »

1f60c wrote: post #19
rurban wrote: post #6

I like that you could use swear words by paying for it. > You can purchase FarkUnits for $10 for 100 FUs, or you can get a discount if you purchase in bulk. > Using it is easy. If you type a word with "fuck" or "shit" in your comment, a new button will pop up that says "Add Comment using SwearJar - 20FUs." Just click or tap that and those words won't be filtered to the customary 'fark' or 'shiat.'

This implies that the website is really called fuck.com (but censored), which is certainly … a choice.

This reminds me of how "Rooster Teeth" is a more polite phrasing of "cock bite"; a phrase which was used in their first online content.

Re: Fark redesign is now live (2007)

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

evolve2k wrote: post #192
Karrot_Kream wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's my question: Can HN recover from this? It was already getting choppy with the election and cryptocurrency generating huge emotional hellthreads. Then came Musk and Mastodon. Now it's Reddit. HN is just turning into another hub of tech outrage. This site is giving me pain to read now. Want to see a contrast? Look at the comments on this Reddit drama and compare it against the original Digg redesign drama on HN…

I think some context you might be missing is the intimate connection between Reddit and YC. Reddit is a YC story[1][2] and the founders even claim that Reddit was the first YC Company to launch[1]. As far as I understand it Reddit was one of those key early startups that Paul Graham modelled future YC around. Further reddit co-founder Aaron Swartz, rest-in-peace, was a and highly inflential in his contribution to RSS…

> I think some context you might be missing is the intimate connection between Reddit and YC. Reddit is a YC story[1][2] and the founders even claim that Reddit was the first YC Company to launch[1]. As far as I understand it Reddit was one of those key early startups that Paul Graham modelled future YC around.

Reddit is definitely a YC story, and so is HN. But Reddit isn't HN's story. It's one of many. Except the frontpage is filled with multiple Reddit stories with repetition of the same comments.

> Generally available API access has been a defining feature of many HN startups so far. This shift alone, towards a world where big tech are locking out API access and squeezing indie devs, is also of great interest to many who rely on API's for work and play.

> It's a perfect storm and we're all watching closely.

Sure there's nothing wrong with following closely. As you say, this is a big moment in economic models of tech. But the quality of this commentary is just bad. I feel like I'm watching my grandmother watch a soap opera on TV after a long day. Maybe this is just me, but judging by the voting happening on my comment, it's not.

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