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Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is something to be said about being able to keep your employees from disappearing from the office for 30-60 minutes for lunch in the middle of the day. Think about it, if you have a chef preparing food in your office, you and your team can work right up until the minute the food is ready, take a 15 second walk and be seated at a meal. When you are done, you walk 15 seconds back to your desk. At the end of the d…

Oh, sure. In our office we achieve the same effect by ordering delivery, though.

Part of it is about incentive alignment. There's about 100 ways to make food 1% tastier with 5% more calories. Restaurants make money from food that is tasty and perceived as healthy, regardless of whether it's healthy or not so they tend to utilize the full arsenal of tricks.

When you have a chef in house, they're being paid to make the food to your specifications so it can often be significantly healthier.

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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post #4

"Hire a chef". Hmm. I wonder what the average investor might think about that?

Not sure about the average investor, but some people believe the Google Chef contributed to their early days.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3223595

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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This could be a core culture issue for your company.

I did this for my first startup and it gave us a great company culture. We hired a "mom" that took care of us the nerds. Over time, we knew that we could always take up the discussion during lunch time in the kitchen, like on architecture wanderings, business cases, ideas, issues, etc.

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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post #4

"Hire a chef". Hmm. I wonder what the average investor might think about that?

There is something to be said about being able to keep your employees from disappearing from the office for 30-60 minutes for lunch in the middle of the day. Think about it, if you have a chef preparing food in your office, you and your team can work right up until the minute the food is ready, take a 15 second walk and be seated at a meal. When you are done, you walk 15 seconds back to your desk. At the end of the d…

That actually sounds like a really bad idea. No exercise, food delivered nearly to your mouth, sit for an hour, go back to work immediately after eating?

How about: walk 20 minutes to food, eat something different every day, relax for 20 minutes getting back to work, get fresh air.

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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post #20

“Don’t eat anything with more than five ingredients, or ingredients you can’t pronounce.” This comes across as being poor advice. Some of the worst processed foods (sauces found in a supermarket isle) often contain 90% of one of the following staples: water, tomato, potato, onion, apple, corn, carrot, ... It looks healthy but the remainder of the product is salt, refined sugar, perhaps a dash of another staple ingred…

That's just one of pollan's "rules". Taken out of context, I agree. Put it in context with the others where he suggests, for example "Stay out of the middle of the supermarket; shop on the perimeter of the store. Real food tends to be on the outer edge of the store near the loading docks, where it can be replaced with fresh foods when it goes bad" (or...to paraphrase...eat fresh foods)...and it's fine.

I also think his "rules" can be somewhat hyperbolic. It's not "anything" with more than 5 ingredients....as, for example, a great hot n sour soup has WAY more than that. Holistically his rules would be...understand what you're eating..eat less processed food...eat mostly plants, etc.

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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post #4

"Hire a chef". Hmm. I wonder what the average investor might think about that?

My company works in the same space as Thumbtack, and we eat the same amazing food. The expense is far less than you'd think due to economies of scale.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats a home cooked meal, and that's what the very talented Thea delivers. Good, wholesome food simply cannot be matched in a restaurant.

Early this week Thea was sick and we had to settle for Zero Cater. Zero cater is OK, but everyone was glad when Thea came back.

As for breaks to think, people go for walks. People go sit on a couch for awhile. There's no requirement for everyone to actually eat lunch together. You can eat at your desk if you want. You can even go out to eat if you want, but nobody does because they don't want to miss out on the yummy food ;-)

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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Two things I really like about this the most:

1. Providing your employees with healthy, freshly cooked meals on-site! A decent cafeteria that actually provides fresh meals is a heavenly gift and beats ordering and take-away pretty much all the time, both in quality and price so if you can pull it off, by all means provide that for your employees! If I was to switch jobs, a good cafeteria has become a must for me now and it would actually be a factor holding me back.

2. Eating together, focus on "family" in the office. At the IT company I used to work for, we had a small kitchen and a huge table for everyone and very often we would end up eating lunch together, cooked by us or just ordered pizza/kebaps, and we would crack open a beer in the evening, we would play DotA over the LAN in the office until late at night, we would have a movies night, we'd celebrate successes and our xmas party in the office quite often and if an employee wanted to, they could even use the office for a private party with close friends or have their pen+paper rounds there because the table was really damn amazing and the location was right downtown, easy to reach for everyone. What this came down to: this office was way more than just an office; it was a place were we worked and were you also spent countless amazing and fun hours as well. Without failure every time I stepped into that office, I felt a bit "at home" away from home and it was just always a great, relaxed atmosphere and everyone just loved being in the office because you instantly associated it with more than just work.

Emphasizing and acting on the simple idea that the office should be more than just a boring 9-5 work place, more than just a regular office, was definitely one of the best things our boss did there.

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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post #8

Rule #1 – Eat lunch together around a table. Not sure about this. It is fine to have lunch together twice a week. Do it every day? Unless someone really enjoys talking and being listened. I enjoy discussion with colleagues. I find, though, if more than 4 persons are involved, it is more efficient to be in a formal place or follow a formal procedure. Otherwise, 90% of time tends to be on trivial issues. If lunch toget…

In an industry with a lot of computer programmers, why would you ever have to account for introverts?

Re: Food Rules for Startups: Eight Delicious Ways to Build a Better Company

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I believe in team building over lunch, but free food is a terrible attractant and retention item. People who are intrinsically motivated to do excellent work might be motivated to join due to food, but they really join for autonomy, mastery and purpose. Free food is none of these things. And ultimately you end up attracting people who are after the perks, and may not end up contributing to a passionate environment.

Free food helps people focus, as the post says, when you're not figuring out what to eat, mooching out the building then being a bit annoyed that there's a queue and then you're forking over cash, you're not focused or thinking about problems. You gain purpose when you're sat around a table bonding with teammates and bouncing ideas. The lunchtimes I had as an intern at Google were incredibly valuable to me. They were…

You gain purpose when you're sat around a table bonding with teammates and bouncing ideas.

Internships are different, and things change once you know what you're doing.

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