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Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#121

There’s an iPhone shortcut to open Reddit links in narwhal (a Reddit reader): https://www.reddit.com/r/getnarwhal/comments/ase81y/ios_shor... Reddits mobile site became unusable for me a few years ago.

edit: I’m wrong

I have bad news for you, Narwhal and other apps will all stop working after this month. That’s the reason for the current protest. Here are recent articles:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=fal...

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#122

I have been in this A/B test group and I have been in the A/B test group that tries to show a TikTok style feed (one that gets new content based on the content you spent time observing) rather than a normalized upvote based one. Without old.reddit.com, I would have not used reddit. I think it is important to never comply with these forced changes. I think there is a larger discussion on professional ethics to be had.…

While I do not agree with the trend, especially how it's currently going, I think this is how Reddit leadership (and many other C-level/PM people of other brands like YouTube) view it: the site isn't a place to choose what to see, it's a consume consume consume kind of thing. Similar to YouTube removing granularity levels for filtering videos on channels, it's not a content library. It's not even a video rental store…

That's not the attractive part of TikTok-style feeds for business leadership: it requires you to engage with exactly one thing at a time. And you don't decide what that one thing is, and they can make it an ad.

It's not a movie theater, it's a TV station. As long as the thing you're looking at is compelling enough to stay after they slap you in the face with an advertisement every few seconds (every 8-30 seconds, on my Instagram reels feed right now), you'll just keep doing it. As long as the commercials aren't too long or obnoxious, you won't change the station.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get buying it for that purpose, but why then kill it? Especially when it is a personal video platform, when Reddit is mostly an anonymous text platform?

That only makes sense when there’s competition. Why maintain two apps when it’s cheaper to maintain one? Now, in this case it seems like an awful strategic choice, given what happened with TikTok. But I think the reason is nevertheless the same. Modern tech capitalism doesn’t want to compete in the “let the best product win”-space. It’s just not enough money and making stuff is hit or miss. They want to own access an…

That's not (modern) capitalism.

That's simply -not- capitalism.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#124

I'm the mod of a small subreddit [1] with a few thousand members. Today I've spun up a Discord server [2]. Personally I've had a guts full of the banners trying to force the Reddit mobile app down my throat. It sucks it's a shitty app. Just no. I don't like how Discord is a walled garden however it seems like Reddit too is also becoming a closed platform. I might as well go for the company that can actually build a g…

There's so many places you could take your community that aren't another VC-backed SV startup well on its way to trying to be the next TikTok or whatever (see the Discord username change fiasco). Try Discourse, or Zulip (disclaimer: I used to work there), or Mastodon, or spin up your own forum using any number of self-hostable solutions. Try anything but Discord. Future you will thank you when Discord is the one in t…

I dislike how sync Discord is, too. I mean, I don't have time to sit here and chat with people for hours. That is why I'm on HN and Reddit. I read, give it a thought, post some good comments (plus a couple of shitposts) and then I get off my computer. I come back later to check on my responses.

Discord just doesn't work for me. I'm not going to scroll through hours of chat, and I'm not going to sit there and watch the chat rehash the same discussion people had hours ago.

I have things to do... kids to take care of, a house to clean, groceries, dinner, places to go, etc.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

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I was part of this test - I've refused to install the app for years (I prefer websites and the option to open tabs for later browsing). It was extremely annoying for a site I've used for 12+ years to treat me like that. It did massively cut my usage of Reddit (which I would consider to be quite high), I primarily access it from my phone and I all but stopped using it for the week or so I was in the "experiment".

I would love to know the conversion rate that resulted from that test, it must have been absolutely abysmal.

Worse than the conversion rate, Google will most certainly deindex the Reddit pages if they are not available as webpages.

But surely Reddit has already calculated that “[search query] + Reddit” is traffic they don’t care about?

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#127

There’s an iPhone shortcut to open Reddit links in narwhal (a Reddit reader): https://www.reddit.com/r/getnarwhal/comments/ase81y/ios_shor... Reddits mobile site became unusable for me a few years ago.

edit: I’m wrong I have bad news for you, Narwhal and other apps will all stop working after this month. That’s the reason for the current protest. Here are recent articles: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=fal...

Narwhal is actually trying to stay alive: https://reddit.com/r/getnarwhal/comments/144pdom/update_on_n...

I’m well aware of the protests.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#128

I am absolutely blown away by the number of subs that have gone private and shocked at some napkin math of how many total subscribers are affected. Further, the Discord is well, finally getting a bit too riled up to hear coherently, but is easily the largest live, wholesome gathering of people I've participated in a live event with. And on top of that, numerous people are signing up for Matrix and joining the bridged…

> I am absolutely blown away by the number of subs that have gone private

My understanding is that moderators are the most upset category by API changes, because they are losing some unique mod features from 3rd party apps.

Re: Did Reddit just destroy mobile browser access?

#129
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I was part of this test - I've refused to install the app for years (I prefer websites and the option to open tabs for later browsing). It was extremely annoying for a site I've used for 12+ years to treat me like that. It did massively cut my usage of Reddit (which I would consider to be quite high), I primarily access it from my phone and I all but stopped using it for the week or so I was in the "experiment".

This is how I discovered old.reddit.com still works. And it has none of the broken javascript or A/B app pushing code in it.

I was on reddit before they tried updating their designs, the only reason I'm still there is because they still have the old.reddit.com frontend available. I even use it on mobile where it's not exactly practical. It's not because I have some sort of aversion to change, well, I guess I'm really uninterested in downloading apps considering I didn't even bother to try things like Apolle to see what the fuzz was about, but their various attempts at redesigns have been so bad that I would rather use old.reddit.com than them on mobile, even though it's impractical.

On a computer I see no benefits from any of the redesigns compared to old.reddit.com. I work a lot with Typescript and also React myself, and I love the language, so it's not because I dislike that sort of thing, but I think a list of links with comments just works better without being put into a virtual DOM or even just JS. HN is the perfect example of that, there has been a lot of hobby JS frontends from people, but they all work worse than the real deal and somewhat hilariously they work better than reddit's professional attempts. Now I get why reddit wants to move away from the page-reload. They want a lot of the SoMe interactivity, like their silly chat and so on, but I'm not sure who would ever want a Facebook with total strangers instead of people you actually talk with. I sure don't.

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