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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by barbazoo »

wasyl wrote: post #485
barbazoo wrote: post #349

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I don't get it. If I log out and go to reddit.com I see it he "Popular" view with a pretty good looking UI, 4.5 "cards" per screen height, I don't think that's what someone could mean by > it's shocking how terrible the site's UI is On the other hand old.reddit.com is just this super dense early 2000s kinda looking UI that I'd never use. Am I just in the minority here on what is considered good UI? Am I looking at th…

This is what I see: https://i.imgur.com/ueQfJsc.png . Huge cookies popup, I don't even see one full post immediately. When scrolling the feed I mostly see 2 posts, sometimes a bit of a third one. With old.reddit.com it's a compact list where you see a lot more content at once. Also I found reading comments in new UI to be terrible, they load maybe one comment from 2-3 levels down, and everything else requires you to…

You're right, the comments being collapsed is annoying. The sidebars you can get rid of though iirc.

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Post by aprilnya »

bink wrote: post #698
thefourthchime wrote: post #639

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Wow, that’s a low blow. These guys seem to hate their fan base.

I don't know of any site that will allow someone to set up a "secondary" API where they proxy all user requests, especially if they're using a variation of a trademark.

yeah but deleting the creator’s account is uncool

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by BearTiger913 »

wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

I'll just be here for tech news, and other sites for my niche interests. Nothing of true value will be lost to me.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by nukeman »

Loveaway wrote: post #81
bstar77 wrote: post #21

Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.

Not sure what the relation between YC and Reddit is these days, but wouldn't HN be in the prime position to take over? I feel all that is needed is to add sub-hn's. Reddit got Digg's business because Digg gambled away all of it's good will. That was a long time ago, Reddit since been going down the same path. Point is, all these companies are trying to monetize, generate profits, like they somehow responsible for the…

My hunch is that a decent bit of tech-Reddit will migrate to HN. But more general stuff, no.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

machdiamonds wrote: post #414
tomcam wrote: post #350

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How is Twitter rapidly decaying? I am a daily, but very light user so I may not be observing the trends as well as you.

As a user, I think Twitter is better now, notably with the Community Notes feature that even Zuckerberg commended on Lex's podcast - I hope he introduces a similar concept. The option to post extended threads is appreciated. I hardly come across political content as I avoid engagement with it, and I find it beneficial that creating an account is no longer necessary for viewing Tweets and responses.

> I find it beneficial that creating an account is no longer necessary for viewing Tweets and responses.

I don't recall it being truly necessary before, though there were annoying banners sometimes.

But right now "age restricted" tweets require a login, and the thing that makes tweets age restricted is the presence of images plus a very buggy per-account setting.

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Post by TX81Z »

BrotherBisquick wrote: post #560
TX81Z wrote: post #293

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The fact that he isn’t keeping his free labor force happy is the problem. Other companies put hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of staff into moderation. This moron has people doing that FOR FREE and he’s pissing them off. Seriously, do you have any clue how much just YouTube alone spends on content moderation? Or Facebook? These are absolutely massive investments.

The powers that be have deemed that they don't care what the "free labor force" wants or thinks. They care about the experience of the users, not the experience of the rulers of petty internet fiefdoms. Reddit has indicated that it wants to pay for content moderation. So be it. Who are you to tell them how they run their company? Maybe when we move away from "volunteers" then the "volunteers" can get real jobs that p…

That’s my point: they benefit from a huge volunteer labor subsidy. They can’t afford to moderate it themselves as they clearly don’t have the financial resources.

They are free to run the biz into the ground, won’t be the first or last to do so. Meanwhile YouTube will keep printing cash.

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Post by CapstanRoller »

nebula8804 wrote: post #616
foobarbecue wrote: post #209

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Exactly. I'm headed back to wikipedia, where I found community as a teenager. I think you can draw a direct line from wikimedia's nonprofit status to 22 years of greatness and steady improvement.

There is definitely interests that have captured Wikipedia. It takes the form of editors that have slowly built up a lot of credibility and power that then use it years later in some manner that does not agree with the neutral nature of the site. The events leading up to the US 2020 election are burned into my mind. Sure people tend to talk about the craziness of the US far-Right but the non-centrist Left also got at…

>the US far-Right but the non-centrist Left

No need for such verbal contortion.

You're describing the far-right (Republican Party) and center-right (Democratic Party).

Left parties in the USA include Green Party, DSA, CPUSA, etc. They are largely irrelevant.

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Post by bagels »

raincole wrote: post #56
bottlepalm wrote: post #32

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Reddit wanted 2.50/month/app which is like $30 ARPU, Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US. The app they’re burning down Reddit over is already charging $1/month and was ready to sell out and shut down for $10 million. Correct me if I’m wrong, but we usually don’t give out API keys to allow users to wholesale reproduce, redistribute, resell our data for free.

> The app they’re burning down Reddit over is Lmao. Do you even realize what all these are about...? Reddit's pricing API policy is making ALL the apps unsustaniable. It's not "the app". > Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US. Yeah so? Only users and mods in the US matter and fuck the rest of the world? Plus Reddit is, surprisingly, not Facebook. I don't even understand why you're comparing them. Actually I believe many p…

The point of mentioning the ARPU is to demonstrate that Reddit is letting these apps capture (or in most cases flush down the toilet) the value. Reddit goes out of business if they don't capture it themselves or continue to dump investor money in to a hole.

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Post by creatonez »

bottlepalm wrote: post #129
raincole wrote: post #56

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> The app they’re burning down Reddit over is Lmao. Do you even realize what all these are about...? Reddit's pricing API policy is making ALL the apps unsustaniable. It's not "the app". > Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US. Yeah so? Only users and mods in the US matter and fuck the rest of the world? Plus Reddit is, surprisingly, not Facebook. I don't even understand why you're comparing them. Actually I believe many p…

If you ran a website, would you allow 3rd parties to reproduce and sell your data for free?

Yes, aside from selling. It's important for archival efforts.

In the case of Reddit and Wikipedia, it's also an important part of how the volunteer moderators/contributors run the site. On Reddit there are a huge selection of community-owned moderation bots that monitor subreddits for posts matching rules.

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