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Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Re: Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Post by LASR »

Tuna-Fish wrote: post #10
boringuser2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel is producing amazing GPUs AND CPUs right now.

They really are not making amazing GPUs. The ones on the market are only decent value because Intel is selling them far below what it cost to make them, because there's no way they could sell them at proper prices. Even still, they have ceased production, and the product is still on the shelves.

Honestly being anywhere on the competitive spectrum is pretty impressive. GPUs aren’t just some commodity product.

They’ve required decades of iteration to lead to the flagship products we have today. To achieve at least a fraction of that is an achievement of itself.

But yeah I am going to hold on to my NVDA for now.

Re: Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Post by rektide »

Tuna-Fish wrote: post #10
boringuser2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel is producing amazing GPUs AND CPUs right now.

They really are not making amazing GPUs. The ones on the market are only decent value because Intel is selling them far below what it cost to make them, because there's no way they could sell them at proper prices. Even still, they have ceased production, and the product is still on the shelves.

I'd have it the other way around. Intel's doing OK with cpus but man their P-core is way too big & hot. They've been adding and adding to the same core design for a decade & it's a monster. Also their process is still flagging. They've managed well for such limitations but real change has to come, soon.

Meanwhile Arc is kicking ass. It's launch was a dud, but the team has really kept pushing on making the chip run better and better & it's such a great value now. People need to reassess the preconceptions they formed at launch. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/intel-arc-graphics-c...

Re: Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Post by sillywalk »

dtx1 wrote: post #3

I know this might break the rules a little but can we all just agree on one thing: Chip Making technology is fucking cool.

Apparently chip-making uses (or used?) Chlorine trifluoride - the stuff that can set asbestos or sand on fire - to clean chemical vapour deposition chambers.

Re: Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Post by Ygg2 »

sillywalk wrote: post #14
dtx1 wrote: post #3

I know this might break the rules a little but can we all just agree on one thing: Chip Making technology is fucking cool.

Apparently chip-making uses (or used?) Chlorine trifluoride - the stuff that can set asbestos or sand on fire - to clean chemical vapour deposition chambers.

It sets ashes on fire. The only way to stop ClF3 fire is to wait it out. Shit is just unstoppable. Reminds me of FOOF. In a bad way.

Re: Intel is all-in on backside power delivery

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Post by Tuna-Fish »

rektide wrote: post #12
Tuna-Fish wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They really are not making amazing GPUs. The ones on the market are only decent value because Intel is selling them far below what it cost to make them, because there's no way they could sell them at proper prices. Even still, they have ceased production, and the product is still on the shelves.

I'd have it the other way around. Intel's doing OK with cpus but man their P-core is way too big & hot. They've been adding and adding to the same core design for a decade & it's a monster. Also their process is still flagging. They've managed well for such limitations but real change has to come, soon. Meanwhile Arc is kicking ass. It's launch was a dud, but the team has really kept pushing on making the chip run be…

Again, it only looks good because it's sold at such a deep discount.

A770 has a 400mm^2 die and a 256-bit bus to 16GB of GDDR6. It only competes favorably to cards that cost less than half of what it did to manufacture.

You can say that it's a great deal for a consumer, but it is a terrible deal for Intel, and the only reason they are selling them for such a price is that they already have the stock and couldn't sell it for any higher price.

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