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Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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reading this makes wonder what scott forstall is doing now. I hope he's not completely disgusted by what happened to him at apple and will get back to creating tech. We need people with truely innovative ideas from that era.

Forstall is semi-retired from tech. He's producing Broadway musicals and acting in minor advisory roles.

Haha, nice. I wish him every success.

I'm probably the only one who would go to see iPhone! The Musical but I am sure it would be great.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Or just set a company policy around email retention. Then delete anything older than that? Apple chose to keep these emails around because the value of the emails was greater than the risk of keeping them.

The company to whom I'm currently contracted has a 2-month retention policy on inboxes and it drives me crazy.

Are they engaged in generally questionable behavior? Otherwise I can’t imagine why they’d have such a short retention policy.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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I rabbit-holed to the 2005 "irate call" from Steve Jobs: https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-ste... Does anyone know who was the REDACTED browser expert being recruited by Google?

So many interesting things there. Jobs and Campbell knew each other from Apple antiquity, and both Campbell and Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board - and Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone.

On one hand I understand how Jobs would have been angry about Google trying to poach the Safari team for Chrome, but on the other I completely agree that anti-poaching schemes (as well as non-compete clauses) are harmful to employees and illegal for good reason.

One fair solution for employees would presumably have been to deal with it head on and make competing offers up to the level of the Safari team's actual value to Apple, but companies are rarely enthusiastic about that as it costs them money and encourages other employees to ask for raises and/or to interview at other companies (probably to discover that they are underpaid.)

An interesting possibility would have been for Apple and Google (or Google and Mozilla for that matter) to collaborate more closely on web browsers, although that would have run into problems eventually due to business incentives.

Sadly one of the primary results from Chrome seems to have been the erosion of Firefox's browser share.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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post #53

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The company to whom I'm currently contracted has a 2-month retention policy on inboxes and it drives me crazy.

Are they engaged in generally questionable behavior? Otherwise I can’t imagine why they’d have such a short retention policy.

No, and it can be worked around by copying emails to folders, it's just annoying.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Encrypt the email, rotate and delete keys after 18months.

Public companies are required by law to retain email for 7 years I believe.

That would explain it. But then again, why not use Signal or something similar for sensitive topics.

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Couldn’t they’ve said they didn’t have the key anymore? Or automatically delete emails after two years or so? Seems reckless to keep confidential information like that, but I’m not familiar with the legal obligations large companies have, of course.

Yes, they could have lied to the court if they wanted to. That wouldn't have gone well.

That’s not what I’m asking or suggesting

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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I rabbit-holed to the 2005 "irate call" from Steve Jobs: https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-ste... Does anyone know who was the REDACTED browser expert being recruited by Google?

So many interesting things there. Jobs and Campbell knew each other from Apple antiquity, and both Campbell and Eric Schmidt sat on Apple's board - and Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone. On one hand I understand how Jobs would have been angry about Google trying to poach the Safari team for Chrome, but on the other I completely agree that anti-poaching schemes (as well as non-compete clauses) are ha…

> Jobs was already ballistic about Android vs. iPhone.

This was 2005, well before that, which is part of what makes it interesting.

I think this was about the time that Apple picked up the KDE Konqueror browser Webkit platform and reworked it. I seem to recall there being some objections to Apple fulfilling its open-source obligations by tossing a massive patch "over the wall" ...

P.S. quick search result, 2003: https://dot.kde.org/2003/01/08/apple-announces-new-safari-br...

Re: Apple Execs on Facebook (2011)

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Public companies are required by law to retain email for 7 years I believe.

That would explain it. But then again, why not use Signal or something similar for sensitive topics.

Several employees of the world's largest banks actually tried this. Result? Almost $2 billion in fines.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wall-street-to-pay-1-8-billion-...

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