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Post by mynameishere »

themagician wrote: post #401
OldManRyan wrote: post #314

There's a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit's API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong. Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a powe…

Most of the content is also modded by a small subset of mods—literally dozens. You've got maybe a hundred mods who are "power mods" that control the vast majority of large subreddits, and these are the ones "protesting". They don't own the subreddits. They have no rights to them, but they like to pretend that they do. Their moderation has, in many ways, become oppressive to the userbase. You don't hear about it becau…

Agree completely. Get rid of all the large-sub mods, replace them with paid moderators who are instructed to only remove spam and illegal content. Giant, giant improvement. The mods as they are just power trip on their own politics. Why else would they do it for no money?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by aendruk »

low_tech_punk wrote: post #267
GaggiX wrote: post #239

Knowing the dev behind the site, he got 11k connections, the RAM finished and the server went down. It must be a pretty stressful coding session now.

I’d consider it a brand damage to Cloudflare too. Their CDN clearly couldn’t offload the sever traffic. Ideally they should just serve stale content while server recovers.

s/couldn’t/wasn’t configured to/. It’s not magic.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by mikewarot »

cedilla wrote: post #398
eksapsy wrote: post #361

Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the r…

Rossmann seems to have misunderstood what a strike is. A strike is always between two parties that depend on each other. "Leaving forever" is the only thing that won't send a message. If you're truly gone forever, Reddit has no shared interest with you any longer.

The two parties here are the public, and the corporations owning social networking sites.

You're not sending a message to Reddit, true enough... but it does send a VERY strong message to the rest of the tech bros and their investors that Reddit f*cked up, bad, if their numbers crash.

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Post by hanspeter »

davemp wrote: post #450
bardfinn wrote: post #420

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Not even if it had a better UI and better mod tools. It’s still theft, even if the aesthetics were clean. Except reddit is mostly just a link aggregator and host of other stolen content.

Well, this may be true for many of the big subreddits, but the vast majority of subreddits and their communities are about conversation and original content more than link aggregation.

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Post by wasyl »

barbazoo wrote: post #349
john-radio wrote: post #59

To self-reinforce my participation in the strike, I logged out of reddit and disabled Reddit Enhancement Suite and the Old.reddit Redirect add-ons, and looking at the front page without those improvements (which I'm sure a minority of users use) it's shocking how terrible the site's UI is for the uninitiated. For the "front page of the internet" it sure looks like a bad Twitter clone.

I don't get it. If I log out and go to reddit.com I see it he "Popular" view with a pretty good looking UI, 4.5 "cards" per screen height, I don't think that's what someone could mean by > it's shocking how terrible the site's UI is On the other hand old.reddit.com is just this super dense early 2000s kinda looking UI that I'd never use. Am I just in the minority here on what is considered good UI? Am I looking at th…

This is what I see: https://i.imgur.com/ueQfJsc.png. Huge cookies popup, I don't even see one full post immediately. When scrolling the feed I mostly see 2 posts, sometimes a bit of a third one. With old.reddit.com it's a compact list where you see a lot more content at once.

Also I found reading comments in new UI to be terrible, they load maybe one comment from 2-3 levels down, and everything else requires you to click to load more: https://i.imgur.com/C6DXttC.png.

And what are those posts on the right? I _just_ opened a post that I'm interested in, do I have to be shoved samples from completely irrelevant communities.

Also, try opening a post on new Reddit and then go back (in history) — for me the previous page loads from scratch, all the way on the top. Old reddit behaves as expected.

The list probably goes on, but I never spent more than 5 minutes I did now to find out all the issues. I'm pretty sure one of the issues Reddit has with 3rd party apps is that they let you browse Reddit with old.reddit philosophy — see lots of content, choose what you find interesting, and make it easy to dig into the discussion. As opposed to shoving the content in my face and pushing me to only read one top-upvoted comment on each level

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Post by lewisflude »

breadsniffer01 wrote: post #319
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The endgame should simply be: 1. Reddit management gets their head out of their asses and negotiates a better change to API fees and structure. Throughout this whole ordeal everyone else (Apollo dev, mods, etc.) has made extremely reasonable points, but Reddit management seems to be gaslighting and arguing in bad faith at every turn. 2. If management doesn't change, Reddit should die. Why should all these mods donate…

Mods get free API usage. It’s only for 3rd party apps. It seems the Apollo dev has been throwing around some misinformation.

Do you have an example of the misinformation?

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Post by Prickle »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #440
dasil003 wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh, Twitter and Reddit monetize just fine with ads. The problem comes in with VC expectations where everything must 1000x or die. These are not bad businesses, they're just small compared to Facebook or Google. What's needed is mature leadership that recognizes the value comes from the community, and following the private equity playbook of strip-mining the value is short-sighted.

> Meh, Twitter [...] monetize[s] just fine with ads. Well, not anymore. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sal...

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/07/tech/twitter-earnings-q4/...

Thing is, Twitter was profitable in 2019. Then the venture capitalists decided "Now is the time to increase your workforce by a factor of two. You need to start losing money again or you aren't trying hard enough!"

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by bookofjoe »

jcims wrote: post #34
wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

Reddit is basically successful despite itself. It's wild.

Mark Zuckerberg described Twitter as "A clown car that fell into a gold mine."
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