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Post by _djo_ »

latortuga wrote: post #377
istillwritecode wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will continue to use reddit.

Same. Regardless of how they've bumpy the pay increase and related comms have been, it's their platform. Nobody uses third party apps to access Pinterest, tiktok, Facebook, ig, or any other major internet property and I don't see a problem with reddit running their company to make money. Yeah it sucks that Apollo, rif, etc all are getting shut down.

Reddit and Twitter embraced third party clients because it saved them the early cost of doing it themselves and provided extra avenues and incentives for power users to create content and moderators to cultivate communities. Both benefit the platform and in the end revenues.

Social media platforms are almost always generous in allowing for tools and third party clients that result in new content being created. What they restrict is the same sort of thing for the passive viewing side.

Reddit and Twitter were always unusual in that there’s such a 50/50 split between posting and consuming, and power users valued being able to curate their reading experience as well as the tools they had to post with. Most of Twitter’s core feature set came from power user features invented in third party apps, including retweeting. But as the apps became more popular they also took away a larger proportion of passive eyeballs for advertisers. A balance of some sort was needed, and I think both Twitter and Reddit have gone the wrong way.

Facebook is different to those two in that it always had the benefit of exploiting your existing in person social graph and growing outward from there, meaning it had different drivers and incentives for frequent posting.

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Post by seydor »

Honestly good riddance to most of the mainstream subreddits with powertripping mods. The same people have been moderating for free (because they are power-addicted) for more than decade and this is a good opportunity to start new subreddits.

Could it be that reddit actually wants the 'strike' to shake up the stagnant subreddit/moderation situation which hasnt changed for so long? If any of you is starting new subs, please post them here. It's more likely they will be better than the tired old ones

This is one of the dumbest reddit protests and that s a high bar to cross

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by foobarbecue »

TylerE wrote: post #248
foobarbecue wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I'm headed back to wikipedia, where I found community as a teenager. I think you can draw a direct line from wikimedia's nonprofit status to 22 years of greatness and steady improvement.

Eh, the Foundation has a lot of bloat and solicits donations far above actual operating costs.

Sure, they're far from perfect. I don't mind if build a nice big contingency fund or even become personally wealthy -- but I think it makes a difference that greed isn't the central organizing principle.

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Post by htag »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #428

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence. Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves. If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you…

I've come to associate online platforms marketing themselves as free speech havens as being extremely far right ideologically. Are there any examples of non-censored media that either doesn't cover politics or covers the entire spectrum?

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Post by clnq »

Loveaway wrote: post #81
bstar77 wrote: post #21

Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.

Not sure what the relation between YC and Reddit is these days, but wouldn't HN be in the prime position to take over? I feel all that is needed is to add sub-hn's. Reddit got Digg's business because Digg gambled away all of it's good will. That was a long time ago, Reddit since been going down the same path. Point is, all these companies are trying to monetize, generate profits, like they somehow responsible for the…

> wouldn't HN be in the prime position to take over?

I really hope not. It would be the eternal September for HN.

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

discardedrefuse wrote: post #439
TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #428

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this. Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence. Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves. If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you…

Reddit didn't censor itself because Americans are not accepting of free speech. Reddit started censoring itself to appease corporate overlords. And the only reason those corpos embrace censorship is to stay out of the political crosshairs. How long did /r/jailbait exist before getting shutdown in 2011...and only because it was featured on Anderson Cooper?

My point was even given an alternative, most users agree with and support the censorship.

This in effect discredits almost any alternative by the user base itself, thus giving Reddit control.

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Post by unstatusthequo »

Timon3 wrote: post #18
cute_boi wrote: post #13

662/5279 = 0.12540253836 looks too tiny tbh.

The subreddits didn't organize around a single point in time across all timezones. It's generally the 12th and 13th, but it's not yet the 12th everywhere. Give it a couple of hours. In the last 8 minutes alone 14 new subs went private.

Why didn’t they? UTC all the things.

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Post by andruby »

Have the makers of the 3rd party clients considered creating a reddit clone?

Technically that’s not too hard. Moreover, these clients have a large user base. Some even have revenue. I guess the most tricky part is content moderation.

Has this been discussed or proposed anywhere?

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Post by htag »

cedilla wrote: post #398
eksapsy wrote: post #361

Strike you say? That's like, as Louis Rossmann on his yt channel wisely said, "I am so angry, so infuriated that you're abusing me, that ..... I WILL... leave for 3 days and then come back for the rest of my life". Like it's literally like saying "hey I need you in my life". Do you know what message that sends? What would you think if your customers would say "hey Im not gonna come for 3 days but I'm coming for the r…

Rossmann seems to have misunderstood what a strike is. A strike is always between two parties that depend on each other. "Leaving forever" is the only thing that won't send a message. If you're truly gone forever, Reddit has no shared interest with you any longer.

I use to be a reddit power user, but my relationship with the platform has been extremely casual (less than 5 hours/yr) for the last 10 years. Even after all this time, Reddit could win me back as a power user if the platform was better.

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Post by mrtksn »

OldManRyan wrote: post #448
mrtksn wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, what happens if reddit just kicks out the mods participating? It's not like the owners of the subs actually own anything, they just happen to do work in exchange of clout or money(from 3rd parties). There will be unlimited supply of volunteers waiting in line to acquire this privilege. If anyone actually manages to do some damage, they can just roll back the database or something. I've seen so many boycotts on th…

What happens if reddit crosses that line is completely up to community response. People could go on as usual and nothing happens or there could be an even more visceral backlash. History says business as usual but no one really knows what would happen.

There's no real community though.

I have 12 y/o account with over 15K post karma and 35K comment karma and I don't care the slightest. The place has grown too big to feel like a community, if anything, I'm worried that r/StableDiffusion might go away because there are is so much chronological high quality content of the development of stable diffusion.

I tracked down my first comment about how "reddit is dead", it's from 11 years ago. Apart from some smaller subs, for me reddit has become a content stream not that different from Twitter or TikTok.

I will be sad to see some niche subs go but maybe that's the plan, after all, they are going after the mainstream. There's probably not much money in monetising some nerds.

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