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Post by uw_rob »

HKH2 wrote: post #362
jcims wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is basically successful despite itself. It's wild.

Reddit is not going to change. It seems quite a few people don't mind being abused a bit to get the convenience they want. Nothing's going to happen.

I am not so sure that I agree here. What's interesting about reddit is that it is one site with very different UIs. The official reddit app has a focus on video/images and looks to be in competition with TikTok. old.reddit.com and Apollo are very much text centric apps. From my understand, reddit has a traffic breakdown of 50/50 on the text centric vs. visual centric UIs. With the UIs like Apollo being killed, and old.reddit.com eventually going away as well[0], I think users will genuinely leave as they have killed the text based UIs.

[0] Despite any promises, the writing is on the wall.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by skilled »

ChocMontePy wrote: post #323
poisonborz wrote: post #297

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It has nothing to do with the amount of the price, the scheme (charge per request, not /user/month) makes third party apps impossible on purpose. Not to say that this abrupt and unannounced dumping of beloved community apps is just the latest misstep of a long string of anti-user moves from Reddit. They had it coming, but their estimation is that a large majority will keep silent. Let's see - Twitter had also not tru…

If it made 3rd party apps impossible, then all or most of them would have announced they were shutting down by now. In fact, only three have done so. The rest are still trying to work out the economics. I expect that quite a few will survive, despite people saying it is "impossible."

Do let us know about the math, once you are done with it.

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Post by behnamoh »

wpietri wrote: post #366
tomcam wrote: post #350

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How is Twitter rapidly decaying? I am a daily, but very light user so I may not be observing the trends as well as you.

Traffic is down modestly, revenue is down dramatically, outages are up, bugs are up, abuse is up, many users have departed, and the value of the company has fallen by something between half and two thirds. One of its core assets, the blue checkmark for verified notable accounts, has been permanently destroyed. I no longer use it, but word from my friends who still do is that is has become grimmer, less fun. Musk has…

I don't notice any of the things you mentioned. As a user, I haven't felt much difference before and after Musk's takeover. If anything, I think Twitter is a little bit better and more vibrant now, because the censorship is not like before.

Yes, lot's of people tried Mastodon as an alternative, but I still see almost all my followees on Twitter.

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Post by seanalltogether »

bstar77 wrote: post #21

Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.

I think its important to remember that digg was changing the way content was generated and promoted to users. They kneecapped the entire democratic principles of the site, and reddit, a site entirely based on democratic promotion, was waiting in the wings.

Reddit on the other hand is changing how content is accessed on their site, but not changing the visibility or generation of that content. And if 3rd party apps are very important to those users, it's hard to find an alternative to plug in to.

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Post by rafark »

wpietri wrote: post #346
jachee wrote: post #271

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It’s popular despite itself… but It’s not successful. One of the things Spez is whining about is that they’re not profitable.

I'm sure it isn't profitable the way he's running it. And honestly, I don't care about Reddit being profitable. I care about it being sustainable. A VC-driven push for profitability doesn't mean breaking even. It means making a shit-ton of money, yielding a very large return on their very large investment. And they are perfectly willing to destroy an adequate business if that means they are getting a chance at someth…

Of course you as a user don’t care that is profitable. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’m not picking sides, but if you were the ceo/owner, you’d probably care about its profitability. If you were the owner of such a big site, wouldn’t you be thinking of ways to get yourself a -very comfortable- early retirement?

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Post by 8note »

bottlepalm wrote: post #134
jupp0r wrote: post #73

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It's not Reddit's content, it's the community's. It's literally users wanting to access their own stuff in a different way. If Reddit thinks it's theirs, they will soon notice that nothing is left of their business when those communities have moved elsewhere. To even create this war against your own users is complete folly.

No it’s their content. You gave it to them in exchange for a platform on which people can find out about it. You also get from it the good feeling when people ‘upvote’ your content. It’s a pretty good deal in that you only pay for it by seeing some ads. You’re free to setup your own blog and send emails to your friends about the links you like.

I granted a license to the content; I retain ownership

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Post by rafark »

vjk800 wrote: post #111
wpietri wrote: post #11

Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.

It's the classic network effect. People use it because other people use it.

Kind of like the kardashians?

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Post by TheCaptain4815 »

As I’ve continued to repeat, a change in user preference (mostly from one ideology) is to blame for this.

Reddit went from pretty much complete free speech to one of the most censored websites in existence.

Huge portions of America now prefer censorship so Reddit has in essence created a moat for themselves.

If Americans were more accepting of all speech like before, Reddit clones would be easy to switch to. Now, you’re not only battling new censorship standards, but good luck getting on the IOS and Android store as a free speech forum.

On top of that, there are political benefits to this censorship. So that adds even more defense to the moat.

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Post by jacksnipe »

arthens wrote: post #408
jachee wrote: post #384

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FWIW, Many of the participating subs are going dark indefinitely . And the real APIcalypse will happen in a couple of weeks, when people actually using third party apps literally can’t anymore.

Indefinitely until reddit picks new moderators and reopen them. No way they'll allow major subs closing down.

Mods are not fungible. It’s tempting to feel that they are, but they have an enormous influence on their communities.

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Post by Lapsa »

wpietri wrote: post #366
tomcam wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Twitter rapidly decaying? I am a daily, but very light user so I may not be observing the trends as well as you.

Traffic is down modestly, revenue is down dramatically, outages are up, bugs are up, abuse is up, many users have departed, and the value of the company has fallen by something between half and two thirds. One of its core assets, the blue checkmark for verified notable accounts, has been permanently destroyed. I no longer use it, but word from my friends who still do is that is has become grimmer, less fun. Musk has…

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