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Reddit Strike Has Started
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#92Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.
Reddit wanted 2.50/month/app which is like $30 ARPU, Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US. The app they’re burning down Reddit over is already charging $1/month and was ready to sell out and shut down for $10 million. Correct me if I’m wrong, but we usually don’t give out API keys to allow users to wholesale reproduce, redistribute, resell our data for free.
If it's that low they could have just locked 3rd party apps behind a reddit premium account with some reasonable rate limits for non commercial use. So similar to what Spotify does.
Wouldn't have got nearly as much backlash.
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#93Usually I am anti-internet stunts like this. The vast majority of boycotts are dumb wastes of time. That said, Reddit should have built better mod tools before making their api change. I think people complaining about not having 3rd party apps to browse reddit is "meh". But moderators need to be able to do their jobs.
Besides this boycott is at best useless, most are only going offline for 48 hours; it should be permanent until they reverse the decision if they were being sincere.
Reddit mods are addicted to power. If they don't ban anyone for 48 hours, they get the shakes.
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#94This is so sad. I hope Reddit doesn’t die, because there’s nothing to replace it, but I also hope that it stops all the horrible decisions it’s been taking in the last like 5 years? I miss the old reddit.
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#95Does subreddits going dark for 2 days matter? Seems like an insignificant ampunt of disruption to make much of a difference, or am I wrong?
Don’t you remember the Reddit net neutrality blackout? That did… uh… raise… awareness… kinda?
Victoria Taylor blackout in 2015?
also ... nothing.
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#96What's the endgame here? Why even turn the subs back on? The admins have made their intentions clear enough, I think.
The endgame should simply be: 1. Reddit management gets their head out of their asses and negotiates a better change to API fees and structure. Throughout this whole ordeal everyone else (Apollo dev, mods, etc.) has made extremely reasonable points, but Reddit management seems to be gaslighting and arguing in bad faith at every turn. 2. If management doesn't change, Reddit should die. Why should all these mods donate…
Ideally yes, but the opposite is going to happen. They're gonna push their heads so far their asses they're gonna hit the stomach.
CEO and everyone that though this is the way to monetize need to go.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a demonstration of power; a sampler. This is a common strategy. You want to show them that you have the power so that serious negotiations can begin anew without disrupting the service you want to provide.
What power? Reddit can just takeover the subs and turn them back on.
Yes but unless they’re well moderated they’ll turn to crap.
There’s a lot of moderators out there moderating by hand and using bots to run some of the bigger subreddits, much like IRC. Without those bots having access to the APIs, that job gets harder and it’s less likely to be done well.
Personally I think Steve Huffman is the fall guy here and this is coming from the money people who have zero interest in where Reddit is beyond 6 months after the IPO. Reddit also has a history putting people in place to make controversial decisions only to fire them months later as appeasement to their community. Ellen Pao was the most recent example.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
What power? Reddit can just takeover the subs and turn them back on.
And then who will moderate them? Does Reddit have 18,000 employees ready to take over? Or a bunch of scans waiting in the wings?
Surely there is enough people who would apply to take position of power in subreddit. And plenty of them would ignore any principles for that power.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
What power? Reddit can just takeover the subs and turn them back on.
And do they want to put in the same effort to curating those communities as the moderators there've just overruled? Communities can thrive or fail depending on who is in charge. (What happened with regard to the mod banning an artist because they thought their art looked like it came from an AI? Last I heard the artist was able to show their workflow but the mod was unwilling to back down…)
They'll just put the same effort in that Twitter does.
Problem solved.
No one has left twitter, despite Elon's tantrums.
Do you really think CEOs care when their site has so much momentum and mods can be replaced in a snap?
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#100Usually I am anti-internet stunts like this. The vast majority of boycotts are dumb wastes of time. That said, Reddit should have built better mod tools before making their api change. I think people complaining about not having 3rd party apps to browse reddit is "meh". But moderators need to be able to do their jobs.
Official stats showed that only 3% of moderation actions come from 3rd party apps, this was just a made up argument all along.
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