Let’s hope Reddit consumes itself in this peer struggle.
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#32Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.
Reddit wanted 2.50/month/app which is like $30 ARPU, Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US.
The app they’re burning down Reddit over is already charging $1/month and was ready to sell out and shut down for $10 million.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we usually don’t give out API keys to allow users to wholesale reproduce, redistribute, resell our data for free.
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#33Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.
They of course know (at the time of the mass Digg exodus Reddit specifically changed their alien icon to welcome Digg refugees), but the difference is that they are betting on the fact that right now there is no immediately obvious alternative, like Reddit was to Digg a decade ago.
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#34Great! There's a picket line I won't be crossing. Not just for those subs, of course, but for all of Reddit. The reason Reddit is valuable is not the few execs making these (IMHO terrible) decisions. It's the thousands of mods and the millions of people creating and organizing the content that I go there to read. Until those people are happy with things, I'm not going back.
Reddit is basically successful despite itself. It's wild.
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#35What is reddit replacement then ?
yes, we are waiting, the main thing would be their content and their communities. it's definitely not about the platform, but how it would be built and govern by the creator.
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#36Flashback to Digg.com... I hope the people currently in charge of Reddit know how that event played out... it was the single most significant stroke of luck a fledgling Reddit could have possibly hoped for.
What’s the new Reddit though?
I don’t think Reddit being replaced is as much of a given as everyone seems to think. People might simply get tired of the concept altogether. Nobody needs a vote based link aggregator thingy in their lives, and there is no shortage of social media in sight.
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#37What's the endgame here? Why even turn the subs back on? The admins have made their intentions clear enough, I think.
It's a demonstration of power; a sampler. This is a common strategy. You want to show them that you have the power so that serious negotiations can begin anew without disrupting the service you want to provide.
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#38Is the inevitable fate of any social media site to be antagonistic to its most dedicated users?
I don't know if it's inevitable, but it's clear at this point that people are unwilling to pay $ for access to the content in the forms we know now. I think until we find a better way of having people pay for content and curation, we're likely to see this happen again. That said, Reddit has (so far) lasted a decade on the throne, which is a third of the life of the www. It's not like there's anoter competitor sitting there ready to dethrone it so I suspect it's here for another while.
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#39Is the inevitable fate of any social media site to be antagonistic to its most dedicated users?
Yes: https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
First, platforms are good to users to attract them. Then, they abuse users to attract advertisers. Then, once they think they have a moat, they abuse both sides to extract as much money as possible before it all crashes down.
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#40What's the endgame here? Why even turn the subs back on? The admins have made their intentions clear enough, I think.
It doesn't make sense to go all-in all at once. You need to have leverage afterwards as well.
Also you have to think about the media coverage. This way you have two times the possible media coverage instead of just once and then everybody forgets about it.