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On sound quality, yes. But neither this nor any of the others offered for comparison feels creative in the slightest. By contrast OpenAI's JukeBox, which is maybe two years old now, really comes up with fascinating ideas.
No, not just on sound quality. If that was an outro for a Boards of Canada or Ulrich Schnauss demo, I would not have batted an eye.
For the most part the new samples still sound like melodic nonsense — in all but one of the examples the melody doesn't fit properly with the chords underneath. It really does feel like the output of a music blender. The style transfer is the most interesting bit IMO, as you get a sense of how it hears the source examples. For example, when transferring the opening to the Bach Toccata all the new samples miss out the…
This is as bad as it'll ever be though.
Maybe I'm just getting older but I feel like the quality of both music and film has seriously declined over the last 5-10 years. Maybe the good stuff is still out there but lost in a sea of average garbage that has surfaced to the top. Something tells me AI isn't going to rescue us either. I just sampled a bunch of these generated tracks and they immediately remind me of the average, mediocre, soul-lacking content th…
You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.
Computers can already generate every possible waveform that can be heard by human ears. There's nowhere else to go. Anything above 16kHz is useless and can't be heard anyway.
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So whats the issue? I can create exactly what I want instead of what is available.
By definition of having an AI generate something for you instead of making it yourself, you can’t create exactly what you want. You can probably get it in the ballpark, though. But that’s exactly the same scenario we have today with musicians. The same way we traded away the profession of painters for photography, it seems like we might be trading away muscicians for generative music AI. Except photography is super u…
People still paint? Even portrait, although I'll acknowledge it's far less popular than it was in the 1700s. A town full of reproduction artists in China seems a bigger threat to capitalistic western artists than an AI that will mostly provide generic output.
(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
Personally I think you underestimate access, I've on several occasions while developing small games wanted to collaborate with someone who has a musical bent to put something together. The problem I feel is that I have an expectation of being able to front the cost of engaging someone to work on a project with me. Working out navigating a working relationship on a smaller project seems fraught with issues. I'm rarely…
For music we could present such an image but it would then suggest I'd argue much more possibilities. We could narrow down by genre you would suppose but even then there are too many possibilities: genre's are not as strong categories as are the stylized "era's" of visual art, I would also claim. Moreover, we can "port" a fundamental structure like a melody over all sorts of strains of music. In visual art, any motif is bound to be changed depending on the era and the style we'd put it in, that is, I think that in music, there are elements that are stronger in visual arts and elements that are weaker in music, and vice-versa, with regard to a description we could give in English. It's probably more natural and more possible to ask about what a sort visual representation should be than what a piece of sound should be.
It's interesting how we can generate images I'd argue in stunning faithfulness to some prompts but we don't seem to be very close to the same standard, for some prompts, at generating music.
(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
Instead of turning to pre-made corporate software, you could just hire me or one of my developer friends? We’ll crank out something fine for you in no time flat. All you have to do is just: - Find me, which is easy, just become an amateur developer yourself and scour the various places I frequent - Think of and propose in great detail what you want. We will go back and forth over this, over the course of several days…
You give an analogy of software. I suppose I feel that art differs from this in some ways. E.g. originality, creativeness.
Reading many of these responses I'm gathering that perhaps I have too strong a notion of what kind of quality of music might be in demand. While the loops on the original article are impressive given their generative nature, I suppose I felt that there may be a demand for something more (Better sound design, more long term structure), but maybe I'm naive.
But thanks for giving me your perspective.
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You are getting older. Every generation thinks the same, that media is getting worse, discounting the survivorship bias that occurs when they look back on their favorite music and discarding all of the bad music that was present back then.
In the 1950s there was no metal, chiptunes, EDM and other stuff like that. We had all that by the 80s and 90s. But what can we make now that we could not have made 20-30 years ago? Seems like that we've reached "the end of history" in music. I haven't seen anything new appearing. Computers can already generate every possible waveform that can be heard by human ears. There's nowhere else to go. Anything above 16kHz is…
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In the 1950s there was no metal, chiptunes, EDM and other stuff like that. We had all that by the 80s and 90s. But what can we make now that we could not have made 20-30 years ago? Seems like that we've reached "the end of history" in music. I haven't seen anything new appearing. Computers can already generate every possible waveform that can be heard by human ears. There's nowhere else to go. Anything above 16kHz is…
Just because we can generate any waveform doesn't make music "worse."
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Just because we can generate any waveform doesn't make music "worse."
I'm not saying that music is worse. I'm saying that we have reached the "end of history" and there will be no more new radical changes like when genres like rock, metal and edm appeared.
I'm not too sure about end of history, there might well be other genres and styles popping up. Just because we always had the ability to paint on a canvas doesn't mean pointillism or cubism didn't emerge. Just because we can put any letters on a page doesn't mean new genres of fiction didn't emerge. The fact that we can generate any waveform is analogous to these (ie, having complete control over a medium) and doesn't indicate anything about what might emerge in the future.
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I'm not saying that music is worse. I'm saying that we have reached the "end of history" and there will be no more new radical changes like when genres like rock, metal and edm appeared.
That seems like a different point than the one I made that you replied to, so sorry for the confusion. I'm not too sure about end of history, there might well be other genres and styles popping up. Just because we always had the ability to paint on a canvas doesn't mean pointillism or cubism didn't emerge. Just because we can put any letters on a page doesn't mean new genres of fiction didn't emerge. The fact that we…