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The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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I think it's a good thing in that it's led to the most commercially successful search and ads company in history (which - in large part - does deliver very relevant content, and relatively lower sadness than many competitors). But it's clear there is much room to improve. That point you're addressing was meant to illustrate one way in which it is difficult to find an ad match that doesn't induce sadness. (As opposed…

How about not showing ads in those cases?

I'm no expert, but two things come to mind:

1a) That is sub-optimal for ad publishers. I think in building such a system you have to assume they want to make the most money. And while ANY ad may not make much money, it's certainly not capped at the $0 they can expect from NO ad.

1b) Also: imagine if you implement AdCompanyX's html, and you see nothing. Is it broken? Out of ad inventory? Not yet parsed your page? It's not an impossible problem, but it adds UX complexity.

2) As I said in the original post, It's possible it's actually too far of a leap to go from dinosaurs (to kids?) to games. If this is the case, imagine some sort of fitness function scoring how close the best inventory match is to the content of the page. There's a cutoff under which you show no ad. Dinosaur could likely still be close enough to pass this test. Especially given the relatively little text in this example.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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I've actually had ad companies complain about banners too close too buttons in apps before. They can tell, statistically, when users are clicking something by accident rather than interest. Raganwald's screenshot seems similar to me. The web site designer chose to blend the ad into the text content and Google may not even be happy about it due to the lower quality incoming traffic on the ad.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Patrick, your argument is flawless, but you've become a bit of a robot. There must be some reason why they don't put Marlboro ads in a lung cancer clinic or a Ballantine's ad in an alcohol rehab center. Surely they would be perfect choices for the well-defined audience that frequents those places and they would make perfect sense economically, more than whatever else they put on those walls. Someone might even come a…

OC does not misrepresent the point, he does not engage it, (those are distinct). In not engaging it, he provided tremendous value for everyone ITT. [ Thanks, Patrick ] However, if you want someone to bite - I will. Why bother engaging in moralizing if you don't care enough about your values to pay for them? Better yet, how much is your morality worth to you? "I know that this engine is driven by the money, and the mo…

> However, to me this seems to be more of an inevitable consequence of implementation of a universal means of exchange.

Disagree.

Anytime humans get ahold of a metric, they fuck it up and make it mean something it never did intend to mean. But, hey, animals did it, so we don't need to rise above that.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Advertising makes me sad. I don't care about how good or bad algorithms are and how well the ads match the context or my personal interests. If any company tries to sell me something via advertisements, I walk away. It's anti-communication that assumes I'm an idiot.

The web is only usable with ad-blocking software.

Many ads are garbage for the soul. You know, the sort that imply that you should have this lifestyle, or need to look a certain way. I respect users too much to subject them to it. I'll probably never become rich, but, at least I have my integrity.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Or to put it in a word, they have “morals.” And when they talk about it, they are ”moralizing.”

Do people who disagree with you lack morals? Or are their morals wrong?

Moral relativism is an intellectual shield for laziness.

Take a stand for something, especially an idea bigger than yourself. You may be pleasantly surprised at who you become.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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"We take a generation of incredibly smart people who have been rigorously trained to deliver amazing code, running on a massive computing engine, and when confronted with a human being trying to learn something, they try to distract him with games."

The same can be said for Wall Street in the past 2 decades. Generations of top graduates have gone not to medicine, not to law, not to real business, but to Wall St. where they create leveraged financial products and led the economy to the 2008-9 Financial Collapse.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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Am I really the only one who started reading this thinking the author was going to discuss the paper's claim that dinosaurs, in popular perception, have a lizardlike/reptilian, splayed stance? I've been a dinosaur nerd for years, and the only times I've heard anything about such a possibility is in discussions of old perceptions of dinosaur posture - in every modern reference (intellectual discussion or pop culture appearance) I've seen, dinosaurs are always portrayed with nothing other than a mammalian stance.

Re: The Internet Made Me Sad Today

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post #39

You're looking at remnant inventory. Inventory (advertiser speak for "a page view plus a slot available on that page which we could sell an ad against") are a lot like cuts of meat. Some are worth a lot of money. Some are not, and end up getting sold to be turned into fertilizer or paste to infect cows with all matter of diseases. Things that tend to make inventory worth more money: 1) Better matching algorithms. Thi…

"Because physorg.com does not have a sophisticated ad sales operation which routinely has steak dinners with ad buyers at Proctor & Gamble or any other large brand advertisers."

This is an exaggeration of how this process works. Most ad sales for publishers runs through an RFP process that is managed mostly by agencies, not the brands. There are a ton of brands looking spend money in this way, but ultimately you have to have someone that is good at closing, as well as maximizing the value of your inventory.

This person, of course, is very difficult to find for a publisher of any size.

My point however, I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking the online ad sales business is a bunch of modern day Don Draper types... it's much, much less interesting.

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