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I don't think it is comparable, the invasion of Iraq was way worse.
You think the invasion of Iraq was worse than the rape and torture of civilians, including women and children?
And the summary execution of all civilians aged 16 and above?.
Are you okay? or just unaware of whats going on in Ukraine?.
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"Sounds like the Ukrainian people should have harbored a lot of resentment against the US for interfering with their democratic process, if true. Was that the case?" Of-course, why did you think Donetsk and Luhansk regions held secession referendums in 2014 ? "Maybe they should worry more about how to improve their own country and less about how to wreck everybody else's." Why would Russia not interfere in their imme…
> Of-course, why did you think Donetsk and Luhansk regions held secession referendums in 2014 ? Because there were Russian soldiers holding a gun to their back forcing it. Igor Girkin who was a FSB officer and one of the former leaders of the DPR or LPR armies recently admitted it was mostly Russians and wasn’t really a civil war. > Why would Russia not interfere in their immediate neighbourhood in a nation filled wi…
A "myth" recorded in Ukraine's laws by passing bills like 5670-d that effectively made the Russian language illegal in most aspects of public life. Doing so in a multi-ethnic nation in any other part of the world would have raised howls of fascism and anti-democracy by the US mass media and state dept and extensive condemnations in the UN. But hey, its Ukraine - a promised NATO partner - who cares about the folks affected ?
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> Of-course, why did you think Donetsk and Luhansk regions held secession referendums in 2014 ? Because there were Russian soldiers holding a gun to their back forcing it. Igor Girkin who was a FSB officer and one of the former leaders of the DPR or LPR armies recently admitted it was mostly Russians and wasn’t really a civil war. > Why would Russia not interfere in their immediate neighbourhood in a nation filled wi…
"Because this never happened, this is a persistent myth spouted by people like Putin to justify the rape and torture of Ukraine." A "myth" recorded in Ukraine's laws by passing bills like 5670-d that effectively made the Russian language illegal in most aspects of public life. Doing so in a multi-ethnic nation in any other part of the world would have raised howls of fascism and anti-democracy by the US mass media an…
That law is merely about recording the offical language of the country as being Ukrainian, and having it be used, an attempt to preserve the national identity of Ukraine, as _Ukrainian_ and not as _Russian_.
This desperate attempt to look oppressed by Russia is pathetic at this point.
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I don't think it is comparable, the invasion of Iraq was way worse.
> I don't think it is comparable, the invasion of Iraq was way worse. You think the invasion of Iraq was worse than the rape and torture of civilians, including women and children? And the summary execution of all civilians aged 16 and above?. Are you okay? or just unaware of whats going on in Ukraine?.
But if you want actual official numbers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War
200 000 dead Iraq civilians
vs
9 000 in Ukraine
And regarding torture and rape, you might have missed Abu Ghraib and similar institutions?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_priso...
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> I don't think it is comparable, the invasion of Iraq was way worse. You think the invasion of Iraq was worse than the rape and torture of civilians, including women and children? And the summary execution of all civilians aged 16 and above?. Are you okay? or just unaware of whats going on in Ukraine?.
Well, my original point was the legal precedent. Invading another country without the need for self defense. (Or were there any indications, that Iraq was about to attack the US at all?) So at no point I said it is the same. But if you want actual official numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War 200 000 dead Iraq civilians vs 9 000 in Ukraine And regarding torture and rape, you might have mi…
This legal precedent stuff is rubbish and just more justification of Russians brutal crimes. Not to mention that Russia was doing this brutal razing and raping of civilian centres far before the US invaded Iraq.
> And regarding torture and rape, you might have missed Abu Ghraib and similar institutions? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_priso...
I didn't but I missed the part where they involved children.
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The fact that russia wishes to make some words into existence does not mean they existed.
It is a historical fact, that german foreign minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, assured "NATO will not expand to the east". That does not make it any binding international agreement, sure. But some of those words existed.
East in Germany,
Context is important, how could the German foreign minister ever promise anything about any other country?.
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Well, my original point was the legal precedent. Invading another country without the need for self defense. (Or were there any indications, that Iraq was about to attack the US at all?) So at no point I said it is the same. But if you want actual official numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War 200 000 dead Iraq civilians vs 9 000 in Ukraine And regarding torture and rape, you might have mi…
> Well, my original point was the legal precedent. Invading another country without the need for self defense. (Or were there any indications, that Iraq was about to attack the US at all?) So at no point I said it is the same. This legal precedent stuff is rubbish and just more justification of Russians brutal crimes. Not to mention that Russia was doing this brutal razing and raping of civilian centres far before th…
There certainly were also childs (But right at hand I have boys as sexslaves from afghanistan institutions set up, payed and defended by US forces (and those US soldiers who stood up against it, got problems)
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-to...
"This legal precedent stuff is rubbish and just more justification of Russians brutal crimes."
And what exactly is rubbish about it? Or do you think international law can (should) get established for everyone minus US?
The problem right now is exactly that russia is NOT isolated enough. They still can trade quite unrestricted. IF there would be a believable international law, the sanctions would work and russia would have to stop the war.
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> Of-course, why did you think Donetsk and Luhansk regions held secession referendums in 2014 ? Because there were Russian soldiers holding a gun to their back forcing it. Igor Girkin who was a FSB officer and one of the former leaders of the DPR or LPR armies recently admitted it was mostly Russians and wasn’t really a civil war. > Why would Russia not interfere in their immediate neighbourhood in a nation filled wi…
"Because this never happened, this is a persistent myth spouted by people like Putin to justify the rape and torture of Ukraine." A "myth" recorded in Ukraine's laws by passing bills like 5670-d that effectively made the Russian language illegal in most aspects of public life. Doing so in a multi-ethnic nation in any other part of the world would have raised howls of fascism and anti-democracy by the US mass media an…
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> Mao is looking after [..] China's interests Yes, just like during the "Great Leap Forward" and the cultural revolution. Sure...
He thought he was. I don't think Mao was a crook in the sense of "stealing money and the country be damned". I think he was motivated by a vision for his country, why else fight so fiercely against the nationalists and the Japanese? He believed in something. Whether the Great Leap Forward or any one of his policies was a disaster is orthogonal to whether he believed in doing a great good for China.
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> I don't think it is comparable, the invasion of Iraq was way worse. You think the invasion of Iraq was worse than the rape and torture of civilians, including women and children? And the summary execution of all civilians aged 16 and above?. Are you okay? or just unaware of whats going on in Ukraine?.
Well, my original point was the legal precedent. Invading another country without the need for self defense. (Or were there any indications, that Iraq was about to attack the US at all?) So at no point I said it is the same. But if you want actual official numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War 200 000 dead Iraq civilians vs 9 000 in Ukraine And regarding torture and rape, you might have mi…
We identified and prosecuted the perpetrators of Abu Ghraib. What legal fate is in store for the butchers of Bucha?