Live data from Hacker News

A peek into Japan's convenience stores

one-from-nippon.ghost.io

31–40 of 88 posts

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#31
post #18

Honestly these stores add a layer of functionality to Japanese life (along with vending machines) that increases QoL much beyond reasonable expectation. They have become a bit of a meme, but it's one thing I really miss from my brief time living there. They add affordable right-around-the-corner convenience to every situation, and that you would have to be much more wealthy in another country to expect.

After living there and coming back I'm still trying to figure out how they get my money when I'm there.

In the US it is an obvious choice to not waste your money at 7-11. The gas is more expensive than Sheetz usually, their hotdog like products and terrible pizza have been sitting under a heat lamp for more than a day. And every product there is cheaper elsewhere. But 7 and I holding still is much better.

But it's not actually good and just seems like an extremely easy opportunity for the parent company in the US.

All convenience stores in the US are basically terrible except for a few who specialize in super clean bathrooms on road trips and a few north east places that capitalize on the fact that the region produces the best subs in the world. Really feels like 7 will have a Nintendo moment at some point and actually care about profits outside of their home country one day and just clean up.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#32
post #23

Very interesting article on the history. I also first saw these high quality convenience stores in Japan, then after having stayed in Taiwan for a while for a short while thought that the whole worlds 7-11s are like the ones in Taiwan only to be sorely disappointed everywhere I go. I don't know how the ones Korea are, but for me personally Taiwan seems to be the gold standard of convenience stores. Yes, the average f…

Incidentally, Seven Eleven is originally an American convenience store chain. They got bought out by Itou Youkado, a Japanese supermarket chain, when Seven Eleven went bankrupt.

Big Gulps huh? It's always interesting to see just how awesome 7-11s are in other countries and why those improvements aren't brought back to the U.S. ones.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#33
post #18

Honestly these stores add a layer of functionality to Japanese life (along with vending machines) that increases QoL much beyond reasonable expectation. They have become a bit of a meme, but it's one thing I really miss from my brief time living there. They add affordable right-around-the-corner convenience to every situation, and that you would have to be much more wealthy in another country to expect.

After living there and coming back I'm still trying to figure out how they get my money when I'm there. In the US it is an obvious choice to not waste your money at 7-11. The gas is more expensive than Sheetz usually, their hotdog like products and terrible pizza have been sitting under a heat lamp for more than a day. And every product there is cheaper elsewhere. But 7 and I holding still is much better. But it's no…

7-11 in other countries are often owned by franchisee partner chains and groups. It's just that other countries seem to have better standards than the US.

7-11s in Japan, the UAE and in South East Asia are just much better maintained in general than the ones in the US. Often coupled is the fact that these countries often have strict enforcement, and if that's lacking, then a personal sense of responsibility from the owners to not stuff their customers.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#34
post #18

Honestly these stores add a layer of functionality to Japanese life (along with vending machines) that increases QoL much beyond reasonable expectation. They have become a bit of a meme, but it's one thing I really miss from my brief time living there. They add affordable right-around-the-corner convenience to every situation, and that you would have to be much more wealthy in another country to expect.

After living there and coming back I'm still trying to figure out how they get my money when I'm there. In the US it is an obvious choice to not waste your money at 7-11. The gas is more expensive than Sheetz usually, their hotdog like products and terrible pizza have been sitting under a heat lamp for more than a day. And every product there is cheaper elsewhere. But 7 and I holding still is much better. But it's no…

I wonder why that is. In Japan it feels like they actually provide great value for what you're paying.

Japan's population is declining so at some point (very soon), Japanese companies in general will have to start paying more attention to their revenues outside Japan.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#35
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do! I accidentally went on a side trip while in Japan and forgot to pack enough shirts and underwear. No problem, with 7-11 nearby!

I'm sure it gets the job done but how was the quality?

Pretty good. I wouldn’t buy clothes from there by choice regularly but it’s definitely not disposable level quality. Maybe about on par with Uniqlo for basics?

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#36
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do! I accidentally went on a side trip while in Japan and forgot to pack enough shirts and underwear. No problem, with 7-11 nearby!

I'm sure it gets the job done but how was the quality?

[dead]

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#37

Are they joking or is it really so common to spend nights at the office that convenience stores actually sell underwear?!

Japan has an unhealthy workaholic culture similar to America.

It's worth noting that in Japan, there are also vending machines that sell used women's underwear.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#38
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incidentally, Seven Eleven is originally an American convenience store chain. They got bought out by Itou Youkado, a Japanese supermarket chain, when Seven Eleven went bankrupt.

The history is very interesting here. As noted in the article, Ito Yokado's chairman set up a new company under Toshifumi Suzuki to create the Japanese 7-Eleven. Southland Corporation, which owned 7-Eleven in America initially refused to even speak with them. Eventually it all worked out and 7-Eleven became a hit in Japan, while the fortunes of the company in America did not fare so well. In 1991, when Southland face…

$430 million?

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#39
post #6

Are they joking or is it really so common to spend nights at the office that convenience stores actually sell underwear?!

Things are slowly changing now but pulling an all-nighter in the office is fairly common and used to be a mark (scar?) of achievement and loyalty to the company.

I don't think Japanese companies keep workers around anymore than American ones, so the "hero" masochism signaling is misplaced.

Re: A peek into Japan's convenience stores

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The history is very interesting here. As noted in the article, Ito Yokado's chairman set up a new company under Toshifumi Suzuki to create the Japanese 7-Eleven. Southland Corporation, which owned 7-Eleven in America initially refused to even speak with them. Eventually it all worked out and 7-Eleven became a hit in Japan, while the fortunes of the company in America did not fare so well. In 1991, when Southland face…

$430 million?

[deleted]
Post reply on HN