Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

thetimes.co.uk

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 1001 posts

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#81

Post by th0ma5 »

computerfriend wrote: post #77
th0ma5 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes exactly ... If you can't prove the lab leak stop writing articles about it, people.

Don't accuse people of xenophobia, is my point.

Sure yes, that is a fair point, but this conversation doesn't ascribe that kind of limitation in the argument, because we're already talking about other motivations. Maybe (probably lol) they were negligent, maybe it was an accident, my point is if we are also trying to get people to think for a moment "or maybe they did it on purpose" then it follows that people are pushing that idea, if false, for xenophobic reasons.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#83

Post by th0ma5 »

hayst4ck wrote: post #80
th0ma5 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Because exploring the truth is a worthwhile endeavor particularly in the face of an oppressive regime that made it very clear they did not want the truth to be explored. Just to be clear what I posted seemed like Chinese people exploring what actually happened more than a blame based document or fear mongering based document. I would really encourage you to give it a chance because it is very impressive investigative…

[flagged]

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#84

Post by xcv123 »

th0ma5 wrote: post #45
yyyk wrote: post #38

Leaving aside the question of where and how the virus emerged, it's interesting to note that the lab was nigh useless during the pandemic, despite its main specialty was investigating Coronaviruses! It looks like a lot of dangerous research went on, and even if nothing bad happened because of that research, nothing was gained. A lot of risk for nothing.

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#85

Post by arisAlexis »

oneshtein wrote: post #51
arisAlexis wrote: post #39

I remember still when it was considered a conspiracy theory and we got downvoted here and banned on reddit for even implying the possibility. Unfortunately something similar is happening with AI x-risk right now.

Accusation without evidence is witch-hunting. We still have no strong evidence for lab leak from BSL4 lab in Wuhan, while we have some evidence (two early strains of SARS-CoV-2: A, then B; B was in Wuhan in December; where and when was parent of A and B?) that suggests start of epidemic outside of China in mid-September 2019. Russians start to delete videos about blast at their BSL4 lab "Vector" in Novosibirsk on Sep…

We are playing with words. Accusation vs possibility vs open to options vs etc. The problem is that it was called which hunting anything that was not natural origin.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#86

Post by [deleted] »

th0ma5 wrote: post #62
bredren wrote: post #44

> Witnesses are said to have told the US investigation that Zhou fell from the roof of the Wuhan institute, although this has not been verified. This guy who published a suspiciously early patent on a covid 19 vaccine fell off a roof three months later? That’s kind of buried in the article a bit but was this claim been made anywhere else? Also, the section on activity at the lab at the time of the outbreak does not m…

[flagged]

[deleted]

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#87

Post by xcv123 »

th0ma5 wrote: post #83
hayst4ck wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because exploring the truth is a worthwhile endeavor particularly in the face of an oppressive regime that made it very clear they did not want the truth to be explored. Just to be clear what I posted seemed like Chinese people exploring what actually happened more than a blame based document or fear mongering based document. I would really encourage you to give it a chance because it is very impressive investigative…

[flagged]

You are spamming this thread. Looks like you are working for the CCP. Don't make it too obvious.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#88

Post by th0ma5 »

xcv123 wrote: post #87
th0ma5 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

You are spamming this thread. Looks like you are working for the CCP. Don't make it too obvious.

Lol. If the treatment of their own people wasn't bad enough and it took a pandemic conspiracy theory to hate them, then I feel like you need to read more.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#89

Post by hayst4ck »

th0ma5 wrote: post #83
hayst4ck wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because exploring the truth is a worthwhile endeavor particularly in the face of an oppressive regime that made it very clear they did not want the truth to be explored. Just to be clear what I posted seemed like Chinese people exploring what actually happened more than a blame based document or fear mongering based document. I would really encourage you to give it a chance because it is very impressive investigative…

[flagged]

The purpose of that article is not to bring down china. It's not ideologically opposed to china. It was not some conservative agenda article. It's a group of people who want to understand what happened. The article comes from a stance of curiosity. What I linked is very compatible with the HN mindset and not particularly ideological.

You clearly have not read it because your comment makes no sense in the context of that article.

If you don't want to be curious then don't be.

Re: Inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid

#90

Post by [deleted] »

th0ma5 wrote: post #76
throwaway2990 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Knowing how the virus leaked allows us to figure out how to try and prevent it happening again. When you cover it up, prevent investigations, destroy data, and try to blame the rest of the world. That does not help understand how we can prevent it happening again. If China was open and honest from day 1, countries would have actually tried to help. But instead all the CCP did was hide it and blame everyone else. It’s…

I don't side with them, I side with reason. 1. Lab leak hypothesis being proven is not a requirement for any kind of prevention 2. If everyone was honest all the time life would be roses 3. These lab leak articles don't make anyone safer they just cause conspiratorial thinking. I don't trust the China for shit, but I'm sick of Americans suckered in by lazy bullshit thinking. I can't think of anything positive to say…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN