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A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by _dain_ »

wasmitnetzen wrote: post #169
_dain_ wrote: post #145

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the poorest american state is still richer in per capita terms than france or germany. europe is poor and getting poorer, relative to america.

Yet the life expectancy in most EU countries is much higher than in America. Wealth isn't the only relevant metric. [1]: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy#differences-in-li...

they're dying sooner because of diseases of ... affluence.

and we can expect the new weight loss drugs to make a noticeable dent in that (at the cost of who-knows-what side effects, but they can't be as big a killer as obesity)

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Post by xyzzyz »

wasmitnetzen wrote: post #169
_dain_ wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the poorest american state is still richer in per capita terms than france or germany. europe is poor and getting poorer, relative to america.

Yet the life expectancy in most EU countries is much higher than in America. Wealth isn't the only relevant metric. [1]: https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy#differences-in-li...

Yes, the Americans are not as effective at war on drugs as Europeans, which is why we have very high rates of death from overdoes, which is the main driver of low life expectancy.

Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by justrealist »

re-thc wrote: post #130
justrealist wrote: post #115

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I honestly would not trust a developer who finds AWS too confusing. At least 80% of the "complexity" on AWS is to keep you from introducing catastrophic security vulnerabilities. When a developer starts whining they can't figure out how to use an IAM role, it usually means they want to run their entire application as a root user whose SSH key they have sitting in Dropbox. Stay away from my software please.

> I honestly would not trust a developer who finds AWS too confusing. So you would not trust most developers? Even a lot of Sysadmins i.e. Devops find it confusing. A lot of people just pretend it is fine by being ignorant and not learn any of it. They would follow 1-2 processes that works and never do anything else. You ask them why or how it works and you can't even get a real answer out of it.

> So you would not trust most developers?

Obviously not? Most developers are incompetent clowns. I don't feel this is controversial?

Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by [deleted] »

DangitBobby wrote: post #127
justrealist wrote: post #115

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I honestly would not trust a developer who finds AWS too confusing. At least 80% of the "complexity" on AWS is to keep you from introducing catastrophic security vulnerabilities. When a developer starts whining they can't figure out how to use an IAM role, it usually means they want to run their entire application as a root user whose SSH key they have sitting in Dropbox. Stay away from my software please.

This is called Stockholm Syndrome and there are people who can help. AWS UI is filled with manual and tedious bullshit to do every day things. It really doesn't have to be this way, making things annoying to configure correctly leads to mistakes or lazy overly broad permissions. If they weren't the first they wouldn't have made it.

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Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by justrealist »

DangitBobby wrote: post #127
justrealist wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly would not trust a developer who finds AWS too confusing. At least 80% of the "complexity" on AWS is to keep you from introducing catastrophic security vulnerabilities. When a developer starts whining they can't figure out how to use an IAM role, it usually means they want to run their entire application as a root user whose SSH key they have sitting in Dropbox. Stay away from my software please.

This is called Stockholm Syndrome and there are people who can help. AWS UI is filled with manual and tedious bullshit to do every day things. It really doesn't have to be this way, making things annoying to configure correctly leads to mistakes or lazy overly broad permissions. If they weren't the first they wouldn't have made it.

If you're doing manual tedious bullshit in the AWS UI every day you desperately need to learn some IaaS tools.

Terraform isn't hard!

Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by DangitBobby »

justrealist wrote: post #215
DangitBobby wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is called Stockholm Syndrome and there are people who can help. AWS UI is filled with manual and tedious bullshit to do every day things. It really doesn't have to be this way, making things annoying to configure correctly leads to mistakes or lazy overly broad permissions. If they weren't the first they wouldn't have made it.

If you're doing manual tedious bullshit in the AWS UI every day you desperately need to learn some IaaS tools. Terraform isn't hard!

I do use terraform, but not for everything, and neither do you.

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Post by sacnoradhq »

brabel wrote: post #163
funnymony wrote: post #121

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Why restaurant business is bad for you?

No OP, but restaurants are the most competitive industry possible. Anyone can start a restaurant, and lots of people want and can do it. Because it's intrinsically a physical business, the market reach is limited to a small area unless it's in downtown or a highly trafficked area - where it also costs a lot more in rent. There's almost no way to make a restaurant profitable as many restaurants are a labour of love, b…

As an interesting historical legend, Sequoia Capital invested in Il Fornaio, an Italian restaurant chain. It's not a grand concern but it has endured as an okay restaurant. Darden, OTHO, is a sizeable corporation that's growth oriented and has acquired some good regional chains. McDonald's, etc. are really real estate companies.

Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by wuming2 »

Plenty of reasons for infrastructure/platform/software independence. But if Munich and Bavaria, one of the richest regions in all of Europe, could not escape the shackles of Microsoft I think there’s not enough free will to scale a Swedish startup to continental scale.

Re: A Swedish startup’s bid to build a green rival to AWS

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Post by voidr »

€3bn to rival AWS that is going to be more secure and will also only use green energy, sounds like something EU bureaucrats would come up with.

I'm deeply disappointed that the EU is afraid of doing real investments with realistic goals into information infrastructure while it happily throws away billions on the failing Ukraine war.

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