Music died in the late 80s when the DJ supplanted the musician and sampling replaced originality. This is just part of the same trend.
Technology killed the video star that killed the radio star
which killed the stage star!
MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation
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#222(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
It's not that there isn't enough electronic music being made, it's that every new track that lands on soundcloud is a drop in the ocean of mediocrity. There is _too_ much, and 99.9% is just boring to listen to, because it sounds like everything else. I listen to a LOT of electronic music (and have, since the mid 90's) and just don't have the patience anymore to sit through hours of average material to find one or two truly inspired artists.
I doubt I would turn to AI much for anything other than background noise while focusing on work. In fact, that sounds like a perfect use case for me. "Dear GPT, please compose a four-on-the-floor downtempo progressive track with soft pads, no vocals, and zero goddamned fake vinyl noise that runs for two hours straight..."
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#223So, CC-BY-NC licensed model weights, and they've made sure to license the training data. And some jurisdictions are saying that copyright cannot be claimed on the output of such models. Oh, to be a fly on the wall in RIAA corporate offices… Sans schadenfreude, I think this (depending on inference speed) could be perfect for dynamic content in games (including IRL games: LARP, escape rooms, table top games, etc.)
>Oh, to be a fly on the wall in RIAA corporate offices… In all likelihood, they're ok with events. Games were never anywhere near their main revenue stream. Now the labour costs on what they're actually selling are dropping to zero. RIAA's future: 1) Use AI to fake a band. 2) Use AI to write music (maybe even lyrics). Don't really care if the AI is any good. 3) Distribute output widely, note that copyright still appl…
Then they'll quickly be replaced because nothing about that is special - the RIAA exists because they were positioned to guard intellectual property that gave them a monopology on IP that was culturally significant.
Making and marketing an AI band isn't even interesting. Someone will be doing it on twitch and youtube an anime vtuber ensemble before the RIAA even figure out any portion of it. The media hype is because of celebrity, and AI generated stuff can't be celebrity.
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#224(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
It's not that there isn't enough electronic music being made, it's that every new track that lands on soundcloud is a drop in the ocean of mediocrity. There is _too_ much, and 99.9% is just boring to listen to, because it sounds like everything else. I listen to a LOT of electronic music (and have, since the mid 90's) and just don't have the patience anymore to sit through hours of average material to find one or two…
> It's not that there isn't enough electronic music being made, it's that every new track that lands on soundcloud is a drop in the ocean of mediocrity. There is _too_ much to listen to, and 99.9% is just boring to listen to, because it sounds like everything else.
Yep. this is why I don't feel like AI used in this manner moves the needle for music: people only actively listen to the best 0.1% of music anyway. The ability to create music that is firmly in the other 99.9%, as this stuff very clearly is, just means that the ocean of mediocrity has more water dumped into it.
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#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you deflecting by attacking my simple example instead of defending your ‘this has already been done before’ point? If you’re wrong just say you’re wrong.
When Animal Crossing blends between a different composition for every hour of the in-game clock, with variants for different weather conditions, is that not changing based on "time of day, environment, situation, mood, etc"? When Doom dynamically ramps the intensity of the music along with the intensity of combat, and inserts perfectly synchonized stings in time with the players actions is that not reacting to the si…
Why do you think AI music will sound like elevator music forever, when it’s already generating English text and code at such a high level? It’s quite possible that 10 years from now, Mick Gordon will sound passé when compared to the dynamic AI generated music. Maybe not, but definitely possible. There’s a lot of money to be made with better generation of music, and it’s going to be an area of exploration for sure.
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#226I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…
that's cool but also sounds nothing like aphex twin. sort of four tet-ish maybe
Agree. I'm still blown away by the fact that we can summon this level of coherent output with text. Absolute black magic sorcery that!
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#227(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
Problem is minimal viable expectations and how fast these ar filled. In 90% of Reddit you will get flamed for offering money for anything. Wouldn‘t even touch my mind to go there.
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#228IS it me or I just simply do not hear any real music in the "examples". I tried quite a few and would not want to use any for listening.
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#230(This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant. It's coming whether we like it or not. But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords?…
My first reaction to this wasn't "cool I can make the novel music I desperately crave", more along the lines of "this thing is making some wacky sounds that I'd love to see a producer craft into something more". Because I definitely agree with you that there's an abundance of fantastic music to check out, and realistically I'll never be able to check out even half of it throughout my lifetime.
The guys in Infected Mushroom will have a field day with this stuff. Their whole thing is finding weird ways to create new sounds you never heard before.
Just another instrument, really.