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Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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"That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it" Well, the European Union is already working on a legal framework for AI. It happened with GDPR and it will happen again.

GDPR has a severely muted effect because Americans are still doing the same things they were before. It'll be even more ineffectual for AI. Nearly all AI research you hear about is being done in the United States. European regulations will only stop Europeans from using it, but you won't be able to escape it anyway because of how much American culture is continuously imported into Europe. Meanwhile, the reverse is al…

Since we are talking about music, maybe I'm living in a European bubble but last time I was in the U.S. people were listening to classical music (basically OG Euro music), Beatles, ABBA, Elton John or newer stuff like anything involving David Guetta whatever. Plenty of European music being listened to in my niche (metal) as well. Music knows no borders.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Computers aren’t human. Software isn’t people.

Define people. Or more specifically, define what make them special.

Take your PC to the courthouse and tell the judge it’s liable for damages, not you.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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I'm just weirded about the fact that conversation about something AS EPIC AS THIS is so boring and rudderless here on hacker news of all places. I mean like YESTERDAY I did not have this superpower to summon something as majestic as say https://fb.watch/l4ssOD40M4/ with a simple 'A quirky and skronky Aphex twin sample that just hits you' Edits: I woke up to this news delivered from Yann Lecun himself in the morning o…

because it doesn't sound like aphex twin, isn't particularly quirky, isn't skronky, and doesn't just hit me.

It sounds like output not resembling what you requested, and you're celebrating because for some random reason this particular prompt didn't sound totally horrible today. But it isn't intentionally making music, and it isn't particularly interesting music either. It's basically baby's first drum machine sort of stuff.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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It's an artform so its natural for a composer to have the same reaction as a painter would to Stable Diffusion for example. That being said - it's happening, and nothings going to stop it regardless of which side of the fence people sit on.

You make it sound like some force of nature is causing this to occur. These things exist because people are making them, despite there no longer being a healthy reason for doing so. (I’m not saying there’s reason for AI development in general to stop, but these generative things that are designed to slot neatly into the role of human artists specifically have no reason to be developed further beyond proving it was po…

The force of nature is that our society will utilize any technology before even considering its ramifications. "Touchscreens in cars? Let's do it!"

I think you might enjoy Neil Postman's book "Technopoly", which discusses the subject of weighing the pros and cons of a subject instead of just diving in headfirst every time some new technology is developed. His YouTube talks are also great.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Meta is truly on fire with the ML releases, outpacing Google and friends. Kudos to them! I'm genuinely thrilled about the potential release of LLaMA2.

Lecun is rushing everything out the door before they are forced to say "Yes Senator" again

Possibly. FAIR has always been doing great work and making it public though (PyTorch is so big that we forget about it sometimes). Sadly 'we sell ads' is going to remain the case unless product people ask users to pony up some cash to use this tech. To be fair, I would totally chuck some cash to play with something like this and I can easily imagine a world in which this technology is used to power some bizarre social experiences like an online drum circle or some such.

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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Music is hard to describe well without using artist names or references to specific songs. There isn't an alternative way to really describe things - "Airy EDM with tropical feel" doesn't cut it.

This space will belong to scrappy shadowy decentralised organisations who let you type "give me a filtered french disco song using mizell brothers era johnny hammond jazz funk samples, lil uzi rapping, with a thundercat bassline and crooning"

Re: MusicGen: Simple and controllable music generation

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You make it sound like some force of nature is causing this to occur. These things exist because people are making them, despite there no longer being a healthy reason for doing so. (I’m not saying there’s reason for AI development in general to stop, but these generative things that are designed to slot neatly into the role of human artists specifically have no reason to be developed further beyond proving it was po…

Humans creating and sharing new technologies (and ideas, and works of art, etc.) across societies _is_ a force of nature.

“Force of nature” generally means some phenomenon of physics or some natural disaster outside of human control, which is what I meant.

“A big and powerful cool thing” is not what I meant, and not what force of nature usually means.

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