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Anyone who disagrees with Kaczynski's ideas because they came from a convicted terrorist should read the works of Jacques Ellul instead, of which Kaczynski's was largely a popular reduction. The Technological Society is the clearest influence on Kaczynski's manifesto, but Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes is possibly more pertinent in this day and age. Ellul was a professor, a pacifist, and a Christian ana…

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Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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Gary Greenberg's "In the Kingdom of the Unabomber"[1] is a pretty interesting write-up of the palace intrigue stuff surrounding Kaczynski while he was in prison, Greenberg also did a great interview with Errol Morris about it.[2]

[1]: best quality I can find right now: https://www.garygreenbergonline.com/media/unabomber_letter.p...

[2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECNsiK5MB-4&list=PLVmRJGCDzW...

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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You'd have a point if other subjects of MK-Ultra allowed a similar trajectory as Kaczynski. Were there other cases of self-destruction? I don't even know how many people were subjected to these experiments.

Brittney Spears comes to mind, she is still under a conservatorship after her mk-ultra caused mental break.

MK ULTRA stopped in 1973 as far as I know. Claiming that Britney Spears’ mental issues are caused by this seems novel and I’ve never heard of this before. Do you have a news letter I can subscribe to to hear more of your insights?

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

He’s really not coherent.

His premises aren’t grounded in reality, and his conclusions don’t follow logically from his premises. It’s also lacks humanity or empathy.

It’s an interesting read, because you can really see a broken mind at work, but there’s really not anything to learn from the ideas themselves. E.g., his mental model of “leftists” is truly bizarre. It would be funny except I know what it lead to.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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It’s been years since I’ve read Industrial Society and its Future, but I remember it felt like the author was rationalizing his own emotional state into a philosophy supposedly explaining society. It contained many subjective ideas presented as hard fact, as well as some naive romanticization of pre-industrial societies.

He was right about one thing, though. No one would give his writings a second look if he wasn’t a terrorist. Even if the many copycat manifestos would be much worse.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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> The reason Kaczynski stopped He stopped because he was arrested. At that time they found two completed bombs in his cabin, so he was planning to renege on his deal not to plant any more bombs.

Them finding two completed bombs is not evidence that he planned to plant them.

Who wants to keep live bombs in their house? Obviously he was going to put them elsewhere. Which is what planting is.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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> The reason Kaczynski stopped He stopped because he was arrested. At that time they found two completed bombs in his cabin, so he was planning to renege on his deal not to plant any more bombs.

Deal?

He agreed to stop sending bombs in exchange for publication of his manifesto.
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