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His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

For a person who exhibited such deranged behavior, his writing and arguments are remarkably clear and cool-headed.

He was an extremely intelligent subject of mkultra so we should bear that in mind when talking about his violent tendencies.

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Please don't do this here.

Dang, I am not sure he is wrong. His comment is snarky, but there are reasons to think that the explosion of social networks has led to a major mental health crisis, especially among the young, and it may indeed be true that social networks are optimized to make you angry, depressed and resentful.

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The media will report on this as the death of a terrorist. None of the real terrorists will be brought to justice - the CIA has done so many abhorrent things here and abroad. We act like the KGB/FSB is this unfathomable, foreign evil. We have the bigger, scarier thing that killed it in our backyard.

> real terrorists Did the CIA fabricate and mail the bombs?

No, but they've bombed a lot more innocent people than TedK did. For one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Lawrence_Pope

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I find it very curious the fawning treatment this murderer's death is receiving here. The guy killed three innocent people and maimed a number of others because he went crazy and wanted to get back at the world. What is wrong with you people?

You know there's plenty of people that are smarter than him, being able to produce more coherent, balanced and informed views of society, and also not murder people.

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It’s fun to drop verbatim quotes from his manifesto into random internet discussions without attribution. A lot of people agree with his ideas without realizing it.

one of the funniest things for me is the fact that many left-wing people add Kaczynski quotes without realizing that left-wing people are basically the first people to be criticized and almost mocked in Ted's main piece, "Industrial society and its future"

Not sure why is funny agreeing with selected quotes while not agreeing with others.

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Blowing people up is wrong. But his manifesto was right about many things. It’s interesting to skim through it every couple years.

The problem he realized was that there's no political solution. Bombing people is obviously wrong but if you're convinced that humanity is heading down a destructive path then doing whatever you can to stop it makes sense, where the damage/suffering of the bombings would be comparatively (way) less than letting said future play out.

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There are way more Ted K's running around today - it's just that you don't need to kill people to get heard anymore. Nowadays the spectacle of ruining your own life is enough to get noticed. Anyone with an internet connection today has access to world stage provided they are interesting enough. Back then you'd need to catch the eye of a producer for a mainstream news broadcast to get any coverage. Now you can just fi…

You seem to suggest that Kaczynski murdered as a kind of marketing strategy for his ideas. I highly doubt that.

From the manifesto itself: "In order to attract attention to our ideas, we've had to kill people."

Quoting from memory - may not be word for word.

So, if you can believe him, then yes, he murdered as a marketing strategy.

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There are way more Ted K's running around today - it's just that you don't need to kill people to get heard anymore. Nowadays the spectacle of ruining your own life is enough to get noticed. Anyone with an internet connection today has access to world stage provided they are interesting enough. Back then you'd need to catch the eye of a producer for a mainstream news broadcast to get any coverage. Now you can just fi…

You seem to suggest that Kaczynski murdered as a kind of marketing strategy for his ideas. I highly doubt that.

it's 2023 and everyone has an Internet-connected smartphone in their pocket at all times—in 1995 this was not the case.

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Kaczynski is a warning to all intellectuals with an an activist streak. If harming and killing innocents is your solution, you're already off the path. In this regard, he was no different from many of the people and institutions he critiqued.

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His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

Yes. Someone linked the manifesto in an HN thread ages ago, and I found more level-headed and thought-provoking than I would have imagined from someone able to commit such evil acts. I do not agree with everything he wrote in the manifesto, and certainly not with his violent methods, but it's stuck with me in this era of naive techno-optimism which I find myself more disillusioned with by the day. If the name on the…

> As a very progressive person, I quite enjoyed his critique of the modern Leftist ideals and why they would create the factionalism we see today, and he's arguing not as a conservative, but as a third position that is not represented by any mainstream camp.

Realistically his opinions are held by a substantial amount of people that most would label conservative, although it's not mainstream conservatism for sure. And certainly not mainstream republicanism.

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