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Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

> many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient

Especially as his predictions were also true in technology in the past decades and is now more relevant with AI.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don’t think it excuses it at all but I wonder at what point it would? If MKUltra had removed 70% of his brain, would that excuse his actions?

Is there more precise and credible information about MKUltra program and Ted K.?

No. The only thing that's really documented is that he participated in a psychology experiment at Harvard.

People have alleged that it was part of MKULTRA, but there's nothing to support that beyond allegations and some circumstantial things (e.g., Murray consulted for the OSS on a profile of Hitler during the war). There were also just a lot of unethical experiments done on people in the 50s and 60s.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I you talk big, you must act big. You can't go around using a post office and subjecting yourself to prison time and lawyers. It's as simple as that. Otherwise you are not pure and sane and a real naturalist. In fact you're insane and a hypocrite living in prison for ~40 years.

Can you zero on a particular espoused belief and how he practiced other than he preached? What specifically should he have done differently that would've made him not a hypocrite? I'm honestly trying to figure out what your point is.

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Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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post #31

His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

I don't suppose anyone has a short summary?

reject humanity, return to monke

Edit: In all seriousness, it's been a while since I read it. His general ideas are that technology has been a disaster for humankind because, among other reasons, it's freed up time for us to be preoccupied with unimportant bullshit, to the point that it causes mental problems with people. People start to act out in various ways in resistance of our current state because we 'know' somewhere in our bodies that this existence is meaningless. People without the luxury of free time do not have to preoccupy themselves with this struggle for meaning.

He also goes on at length about how leftists are self-hating people and worship victimhood, and their mentality is partly a product of this existential dilemma.

But these are just a couple of points I took away. It's much more well-written than I could personally attempt to summarize in an internet comment.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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Many of the comments are taking the occasion to speak favorably of the Unabomber's manifesto.

IMHO, there's a time to consider ideas, but I think it would be better not to do that when talking about a terrorist who attacked innocents to promote exposure of those ideas.

Otherwise, it would seem to be validating and rewarding terrorism, and thereby encouraging future terrorists.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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Best manifesto of the 20th century imo. Modern man is an animal in a cage. He behaves increasingly abnormally because his environment is unfamiliar and out of his direct control.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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I know the tendency to mythologize serial killers and terrorists is disgusting—serial killer TV shows and movies are sure-fire hits, which is a pretty dark insight into human nature. (I mean, Netflix is like half serial killer shows now.) And trying to generalize and overanalyze and learn lessons from one-off instances of people snapping and killing is just not productive.

But…

…it’s hard not to mythologize and over-analyze Kaczynski. He had what appears to be a totally average suburban upbringing, he was unambiguously wildly intelligent, and yet he done broke bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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post #31

His manifesto is worth reading. Although he was obviously a twisted man many of his predictions for the future were eerily prescient. http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

For a person who exhibited such deranged behavior, his writing and arguments are remarkably clear and cool-headed.

Re: Ted Kaczynski has died

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post #66

Ted Kaczynski was a genius, a mathematical child prodigy, became a professor at Berkeley at 25 and had a bright future. I completely blame CIA experiments for his downfall into radicalism and extremism. His ideas were very valid, but his mind was too tortured to deal with them in a healthy manner. Rest in peace.

What did the CIA do? I checked his Wikipedia page, not mentioned there.

Search for the section "psychological study" under "Early Life".
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