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L3 is profoundly unwise. L3 can disengage at any moment. The attention required of the human in order to drive safely exceeds that required in L2, and is much more difficult to maintain.
"Conditionally automated driving: Mercedes-Benz DRIVE PILOT further expands U.S. availability to the country’s" - https://media.mercedes-benz.com/article/81a29ac5-4d02-4b58-b... ”Mercedes-Benz DRIVE PILOT is the world's only SAE Level 3 system with internationally valid type approval. It builds on a very robust foundation, setting new industry standards. DRIVE PILOT uses a highly sophisticated vehicle architecture ba…
- LiDAR
- Radar
- Cameras
- Ultrasonic sensor
- Road moisture sensor
Curious how this collection of sensor compares with Tesla and also with run of the mill cars with ACC / lane keeping.
... only when driving under 40 mph on highways. So it is pretty useless. The main thing is that Mercedes Benz will take liability for anything that goes wrong. But the system as a whole is far less capable than Tesla FSD.
> The main thing is that Mercedes Benz will take liability for anything that goes wrong. But the system as a whole is far less capable than Tesla FSD. "It's less capable except for the minor fact that if we > someone, it's >". You know, that minor factor called "life or death". > ... only when driving under 40 mph on highways. So it is pretty useless. If Waymo/Tesla/whatever would do this, they'd be the darlings of t…
This is a marketing stunt. They've taken a well-solved problem (stop and go) and taken responsibility for it, and getting headlines by screaming something about J3016 level 3.
40mph single lane travel during clear skies and daytime down certain highways can be done by any number of naive driver assistants from many manufacturers. Tesla's autopilot from 2015 could certainly accomplish that, let alone the 2023 FSD versions. The only thing Mercedes has accomplished here is ambitious paperwork.
Headlines like this really speed up the decline of media. While it is factual it really exploits what a common person would interpret the headline to mean. Tesla is exploring autonomous driving on most roads and conditions. L3 autonomous driving is not binary, you can get it at certain times, in certain places, under certain weather conditions yet the comparison is anchoring it to a system that isn't aiming to operat…
L3 is profoundly unwise. L3 can disengage at any moment. The attention required of the human in order to drive safely exceeds that required in L2, and is much more difficult to maintain.
"Conditionally automated driving: Mercedes-Benz DRIVE PILOT further expands U.S. availability to the country’s" - https://media.mercedes-benz.com/article/81a29ac5-4d02-4b58-b... ”Mercedes-Benz DRIVE PILOT is the world's only SAE Level 3 system with internationally valid type approval. It builds on a very robust foundation, setting new industry standards. DRIVE PILOT uses a highly sophisticated vehicle architecture ba…
>"Mercedes-Benz S-Class DRIVE PILOT Sensors Details" - https://youtu.be/9m-VS55w9HA - LiDAR - Radar - Cameras - Ultrasonic sensor - Road moisture sensor Curious how this collection of sensor compares with Tesla and also with run of the mill cars with ACC / lane keeping.
Headlines like this really speed up the decline of media. While it is factual it really exploits what a common person would interpret the headline to mean. Tesla is exploring autonomous driving on most roads and conditions. L3 autonomous driving is not binary, you can get it at certain times, in certain places, under certain weather conditions yet the comparison is anchoring it to a system that isn't aiming to operat…
Mercedes achieves Level 3, while putting their money and responsibility, behind what is a life and death scenario. Tesla fans call it "decent". It's worst than a religion..it's a cult.
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> The main thing is that Mercedes Benz will take liability for anything that goes wrong. But the system as a whole is far less capable than Tesla FSD. "It's less capable except for the minor fact that if we > someone, it's >". You know, that minor factor called "life or death". > ... only when driving under 40 mph on highways. So it is pretty useless. If Waymo/Tesla/whatever would do this, they'd be the darlings of t…
You aren't going to kill people while going under 40mph on a highway (cars only, no pedestrians) anyway. Under 40mph is like stop and go traffic. This is a marketing stunt. They've taken a well-solved problem (stop and go) and taken responsibility for it, and getting headlines by screaming something about J3016 level 3.
40mph is more than enough to kill someone.