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Visual Studio '11' Announced

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Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

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For those annoyed that this just focuses on colours, here's some C++ features of VS2011: http://herbsutter.com/2012/02/23/vc11-beta-on-feb-29

All that C++ support and they still don't support C99...

Anything to avoid tgmath.h.

Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

#23
post #15

Maybe it's just me but I like the "Strong use of color" better. I find it hard to quickly find the tool button I want when they're all monochrome. I'm sure I'd get used to it, but I can't really say the colors in the GUI are my primary distraction when I'm coding...

Quote from the article: In VS 11 we have transitioned to glyph style iconography throughout the product. While we understand that opinions on this new style of iconography may vary, an icon recognition study conducted with 76 participants, 40 existing and 36 new VS users, showed no negative effect in icon recognition rates for either group due to the glyph style transition. In the case of the new VS users they were a…

That's great, except the test is not taking into account my personal preference. I don't use the icons very much to do things - I mostly use keyboard shortcuts. Now, I'm going to be stuck looking at that garbage all day.

Furthermore...76 participants? That doesn't prove anything.

Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

#24

I'm sorry, but I use color to locate things. This, to me, is a disaster. If this isn't a problem for other people, fine, but it's a problem to me. A better solution would have been to use less color and desaturated tones rather than simply going to full on black and white, which serves only to rob the IDE of potential visual cues. This is like using a cannon to kill a bird. Just because they overcolorized VS2010 for…

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Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

#25
post #23
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quote from the article: In VS 11 we have transitioned to glyph style iconography throughout the product. While we understand that opinions on this new style of iconography may vary, an icon recognition study conducted with 76 participants, 40 existing and 36 new VS users, showed no negative effect in icon recognition rates for either group due to the glyph style transition. In the case of the new VS users they were a…

That's great, except the test is not taking into account my personal preference . I don't use the icons very much to do things - I mostly use keyboard shortcuts. Now, I'm going to be stuck looking at that garbage all day. Furthermore...76 participants? That doesn't prove anything.

If you know all the relevant keyboard shorcuts you can just hide the toolbars :)

Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

#27
post #11

For those annoyed that this just focuses on colours, here's some C++ features of VS2011: http://herbsutter.com/2012/02/23/vc11-beta-on-feb-29

All that C++ support and they still don't support C99...

They have explicitly stated that they have no interest in supporting C99, because they don't believe their users are asking for it, or their users would rather have new C++ features than new C features.

Re: Visual Studio '11' Announced

#28
post #11

For those annoyed that this just focuses on colours, here's some C++ features of VS2011: http://herbsutter.com/2012/02/23/vc11-beta-on-feb-29

All that C++ support and they still don't support C99...

A lot of the C99 features like array initialization got sucked into C++11, and since the C "compiler" in MSVC is the C++ compiler, I think you'll probably get most of C99 for free.
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