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I'm Not Invidious

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Curious how the US legal system will feel about that

I wonder if they will extradite the author, who lives in France, to answer for these crimes in the US.

France doesn’t extradite their nationals.

https://www.ibanet.org/article/22AF1681-37A0-487A-A660-3ACA3...

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This feels potentially a bit duplicitous. YouTube is filled with copyright infringing material, which Google capitalizes on to bring in viewers to ads. Granted, they have hosting costs. I wonder what the legal situation is for such instances.

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IANAL but as far as I know, if you think you've found some kind of technicality or gotcha in a legal letter or email that means you can ignore it, you're probably wrong.

Ignoring the legal process can result in seized domains and servers, services being taken down, lawyers obtaining all kinds of personal information through the courts, and other stuff that gets very expensive very quickly. I doubt that this person will be extradited for making a Youtube frontend, but fighting Google can be certified Not Fun.

If you're going to ignore a cease and desist, consider getting legal advice from an expert with relevant knowledge first. They will tell you what can and cannot happen if you ignore letters like these. Perhaps they can word your protest in a more legalese form that Google will need to respond to if it wants to actually pursue the matter; it's certainly possible that getting actual lawyers involved to overthrow a realistic defence will be too much for Google to actually care. Youtubers certainly seem to get the velvet glove treatment after their message exchange with Youtube representatives mention lawyers.

There are probably ways in which the project can be defended (for example, if it really doesn't use the API in any way I don't believe it can be subject to their terms and conditions) but "you used the wrong opening for your email" and "Invidious *is*." isn't it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if they will extradite the author, who lives in France, to answer for these crimes in the US.

France doesn’t extradite their nationals. https://www.ibanet.org/article/22AF1681-37A0-487A-A660-3ACA3...

Yeah the French are the only western Europeans who exercise any real sovereignty, except for maybe the Swiss, sort of. I reckon they have Charles de Gaulle to thank for that. They’re certainly in a privileged spot when it comes to NATO.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

France doesn’t extradite their nationals. https://www.ibanet.org/article/22AF1681-37A0-487A-A660-3ACA3...

Yeah the French are the only western Europeans who exercise any real sovereignty, except for maybe the Swiss, sort of. I reckon they have Charles de Gaulle to thank for that. They’re certainly in a privileged spot when it comes to NATO.

Isn't this a civil case? Would extradition even apply?

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Author says "I am not Invidious", but they are in fact the project manager of Invidious.

Some of the quotes are laugh out loud funny to me:

"Invidious received an e-mail from Google/YouTube to ask the project to be stopped.

...

I’m not stopping my work on Invidious, so here’s the explanation:

The e-mail is addressed “To Whom It May Concern”, the reality is that it doesn’t “concern” me.

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If Google/YouTube want me to stop, they just have to ask me to stop"

Google clearly asked you to stop and you didn't. Continue at your own legal peril.

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> Invidious isn’t my project, I don’t own the “Invidious” trademark, I’m not Invidious, I don’t represent Invidious. I’m just… me. > Invidious is . The post comes off as a little idealistic and dismissive. I hope they have given enough thought and have sufficient countermeasures in place for the project if the law disagree with their view.

Methinks the developer doth protest too much.
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