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Re: Chat Notebooks

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I love the concept of notebooks (as referred to in this article). It reminds me of the way HyperCard made it very easy for non-techies to create something that looks great to share out with the world. I'm honestly surprised nobody else has exploited this functionality before!

Re: Chat Notebooks

#4
Neat idea, but some of it is made out to be unnecessarily complex and esoteric. E.g. giving it your name, and now it becomes 'aware' of your name. I guess in normal programming that would be like saying once you declare your variable the program is 'aware' of it. It's not wrong to say that, but unnecessarily makes it more complicated. The tacking of multiple such instances makes the overall post more complicated than needed. The core idea is neat though.

Re: Chat Notebooks

#5
While I think his notebooks and features look pretty useful, he frames the article around having invented "notebooks" 36 years ago before anyone else, and talks about other notebooks not having features that they've had since 1987. This is a pretty odd context to basically describe a new chat feature.

Is this a record that should be set straight?

I've used Jupyter since it was IPython notebook, but I don't think that community claims to be the first coming of notebooks. The accessibility of python along with the breadth and depth of the scipy community makes it a quite a tour de force. So perhaps these articles are aimed at people who only use open source tools.

Re: Chat Notebooks

#6
Jupyter notebooks were inspired by Mathematica notebooks (as stated by author).

Jupyter notebooks are massively used in data science and AI research which eventually led to ChatGPT.

Now ChatGPT is integrated in Mathematica notebooks.

Nice circular situation.

Re: Chat Notebooks

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While I think his notebooks and features look pretty useful, he frames the article around having invented "notebooks" 36 years ago before anyone else, and talks about other notebooks not having features that they've had since 1987. This is a pretty odd context to basically describe a new chat feature. Is this a record that should be set straight? I've used Jupyter since it was IPython notebook, but I don't think that…

> Is this a record that should be set straight?

It's Wolfram. If they didn't claim to invent something fundamental in the first paragraph, I'd immediately assume the site was hacked or it's a poorly timed April fools joke written by an intern.

Re: Chat Notebooks

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While I think his notebooks and features look pretty useful, he frames the article around having invented "notebooks" 36 years ago before anyone else, and talks about other notebooks not having features that they've had since 1987. This is a pretty odd context to basically describe a new chat feature. Is this a record that should be set straight? I've used Jupyter since it was IPython notebook, but I don't think that…

Seems like it's debatable depending on your definition of "notebook": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notebook_interface#History

But also, even if it's true, it's kind of an offputting way to start the article. I know that's his thing and I know it's discussed every time one of these is posted here so apologies for the repetitive observation.

Re: Chat Notebooks

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post #3

I love the concept of notebooks (as referred to in this article). It reminds me of the way HyperCard made it very easy for non-techies to create something that looks great to share out with the world. I'm honestly surprised nobody else has exploited this functionality before!

At that time FileMaker was the HyperCard for data analysis. They could also interoperate.

Re: Chat Notebooks

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While I think his notebooks and features look pretty useful, he frames the article around having invented "notebooks" 36 years ago before anyone else, and talks about other notebooks not having features that they've had since 1987. This is a pretty odd context to basically describe a new chat feature. Is this a record that should be set straight? I've used Jupyter since it was IPython notebook, but I don't think that…

Having been there when it was first announced, I think his "claim" has substance. Mathematica clearly defined the "notebooks" UI as it is known today.
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