Google uses in-person office attendance as part of employee performance reviews

Post by danaris » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 5:20 PM UTC

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Musk didn’t prove anything. All he showed so far is that if you turn off the airplane engine mid-flight, it will glide for a time on momentum.

Still waiting for all the major failures people have been clamoring about. I think the real talk is that you can run a lot of dotcoms on a skeleton crew and when money becomes tight you can trim a lot of fat. It’s not something people like to hear because they realize they are the fat

Post by CraigJPerry » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

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I think you articulated a sentiment a lot of people have very well. For the non-decision makers, there is a strange dichotomy I see with coding. Remotely, I’m vastly more productive in getting coding work done. I’m sure most people would agree. But that productivity is almost erased by onboarding new hires. There are so many aspects of software engineering where it’s so much easier to be sitting next to someone, poin…

> ’s so much easier to be sitting next to someone, pointing at their monitor, and discussing what and why you are doing something. Instead, you need to hop on a call and awkwardly screen share on a call or write out paragraphs of text to impart the knowledge For me, it's the exact opposite. Before the pandemic, I always found the practice (and even the idea!) of "pairing" quite off-putting. You're standing behind som…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 5:57 PM UTC

llm_nerd wrote: post #342

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Ah, see I think denigrating the conversation by moving to personal attacks - painting me as a child who “stomps my feet” - is far less charitable. I legitimately wanted to see the data / could be persuaded. Aside, my personal anecdote is that this lack of decorum is why I rarely comment on HN anymore. So perhaps you are right.

Given that I explicitly stated that it was 100% unproven conjecture and anecdotes, replying with scare-quotes and demands for citation is not a good example of decorum. It's argumentative and hostile, and with little intention of good faith. Anyways, hope you have a good day.

Post by gotaran » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 6:19 PM UTC

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After going back and forth between in-person and remote jobs, my conclusion: * Remote work is much better if you know what you're building and "just" need to execute. * In-person is much better if you don't know what you need to build, are trying to "figure it out as you go along", and are relying on the implicit fast feedback loop of standing next to each other. Obvious, right? But I think what I've realize is the d…

> In-person is much better if you don't know what you need to build, are trying to "figure it out as you go along", and are relying on the implicit fast feedback loop of standing next to each other. true. > For large companies like FAANG, I actually think they mostly fall in bucket 2 Also true most fall in the "figure it out" bucket... But here's where it gets funny: just meet in-person you say? No, this is FAANG. Yo…

Post by grepfru_it » Sat, Jun 10, 2023, 2:31 AM UTC

danaris wrote: post #341

grepfru_it wrote: post #125

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Still waiting for all the major failures people have been clamoring about. I think the real talk is that you can run a lot of dotcoms on a skeleton crew and when money becomes tight you can trim a lot of fat. It’s not something people like to hear because they realize they are the fat

There have been major failures. Several times there were outages at Twitter that were plenty serious enough to be a death knell, or near enough, for a company with less network effect keeping people using them.