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Post by DVRC »

DonHopkins wrote: post #240
Davidbrcz wrote: post #141

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So emacs ?

UniPress Emacs for NeWS in 1988: Scriptable GUI, tabbed windows, pie menus, hypermedia authoring tool for HyperTIES browser. Emacs served as an IDE with tabbed window and pie menus, for interactively editing, viewing, and navigating HyperTIES markup language documents, graphics, and interactive PostScript "applets". HyperTIES browser and Gosling Emacs authoring tool with pie menus on the NeWS window system https://en…

Do any version of UniPress Emacs (that support the NeWS driver) or NeMacs survive?

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Post by nsonha »

hxii wrote: post #198
nsonha wrote: post #194

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Arc Browser does it but currently closed beta, I have spare invitations if you need.

I wanted to try it since I couldn't understand what the fuss was about, then I saw it's still in closed beta. What are your impressions of it?

You likely know what I'm talking about, tab pinning is broken in all mainstream browsers, it isn't broken in Arc. In addition, you can pin groups of multiple tabs tilled side by side (not very useful without a wide screen, but still)

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Post by readerbaza »

hsjqllzlfkf wrote: post #185

Firefox has tree style tabs, and no crypto. Win win

Reason I dropped chrome around 2011/2012, they removed the options to have tabs laid vertically as not enough users used it (it was an hidden option and badly implemented).

Tree style tabs is the main reason I've used firefox since.

Tabs are really a bad design, maybe made some sense with 4:3 monitors but text was horizontal back then too.

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Post by apple4ever »

Cyberdog wrote: post #69
scelerat wrote: post #59

OmniWeb (from Omnigroup, developers of OmniGraffle, OmniPlan, OmniOutliner et al) was their web browser offering in a particularly fecund period of browser development in the early 2000s, which had vertical tabs. The tabs themselves were little thumbnails of the contents of the web page in question. I used OmniWeb as my main browser for many years, right up until Firebug and Firefox became the preferred development e…

OmniWeb was great! I think Opera still did it first, though. I moved on to Safari after it died, but I missed vertical tabs dearly and still do. Hopefully this idea catches on well enough for the Safari team to finally steal it.

Same here. I loved OW and its Tab layout. But after its demise I went to Safari.

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Post by lern_too_spel »

NayamAmarshe wrote: post #236
orbital-decay wrote: post #232

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GP's point was that the browser is adware. It really is - it exists on the advertisement revenue, even if you could use it without viewing ads. Rewards are neither opt-in nor opt-out: during the installation you're offered to try them, have to make your choice, and disable the UI elements afterwards with a relaunch.

Rewards are opt-in, not opt-out. The whole point of 'opt-in' is to give users a choice. Besides, I'd rather have this level of adware than Chrome level of spyware. It's also a lot better than any other mainstream browser out there. Firefox has tons of ads too and Chrome and Edge, let's not go there.

> let's not go there.

Why not go there? Because it shows Brave is adware and Chrome is not? What ads does Chrome have? Even to opt-in to?

Note that Brave's opt in dialog is itself an ad. After you dismiss it, the ad continues to live permanently in browser settings.

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Post by 1MachineElf »

chrisco255 wrote: post #248
1MachineElf wrote: post #21

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The latter is more valuable to the ad tech industry. In fact, they benefit from browsers with crippled bookmarking systems. Every time a user types in "facebook" instead of facebook.com into the omnibar, that user is directed to a Google/Bing/Brave Search page with ads.

Most of that is alleviated by autocomplete with browser history.

Data that is shared with Google/Bing/etc. It worries me that the omnibar is enabled by default and records what people search for, let alone employees of major companies, governments, and institutions.

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Post by fjcp »

CoBE10 wrote: post #23

I've been using Firefox with Tab Center Reborn, and a config which collapses the tabs so only the favicons are visible. Using Shift-Tab, Ctrl-Shift-Tab and Ctrl-T, Ctrl-W to go around and open/close is so logical for me. First time I heard about Tree style tabs I was so against them because they occupied significant amount of space and I didn't know you could collapse them. I don't see myself ever going back horizont…

@CoBE10 Tried this extension and found it better for me than Tree Style Tab. Your config is a custom CSS? Would you mind sharing it? Thanks!

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Post by hxii »

mthoms wrote: post #243
hxii wrote: post #198

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I wanted to try it since I couldn't understand what the fuss was about, then I saw it's still in closed beta. What are your impressions of it?

I'm not the person you asked but I love it. It's actually solved my tab hoarding problem and made my life so much simpler. Caveat: I'm an ADHD sufferer so my experience may not be typical.

I actually have ADHD(I) as well, and have been trying to battle tab/bookmark hoarding myself. It seems Vivaldi is working well, but I was wondering what Arc has to offer.

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Post by boycott-israel »

nilicule wrote: post #182
junon wrote: post #169

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I really, really liked a lot of Opera's ideas. I think someone on that team really understood good UI design principles, at least at the feature level. If memory serves it included an IRC client at least, and maybe even an FTP client? Can't remember about the latter, but definitely the former. Perhaps a bit "bloated" for its time, but it was always pretty sleek to use. In fact I don't exactly remember why it never be…

Opera got sold and the people who used to work there now continue their work at Vivaldi. Love their browser: strong focus on keyboard users, fast, privacy oriented. https://vivaldi.com

Fast and plenty of keyboard shortcuts - but absolutely not privacy-oriented (https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/vivaldi).

It's always worrying (and intriguing) when a small upstart decides to go closed-source when essentially the entire market is open-source.

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Post by joduplessis »

dietr1ch wrote: post #203
joduplessis wrote: post #170

Nice. For some reason, vertical tabs just have never taken for me.

Do you actually like the favicon sized tabs? Or do you have self-control and only open a reasonable amount of tabs?

Lol! I have the decency to open multiple browser windows (large monitor). But, ja - unfortunately I tend to send stuff to the bookmark-graveyard quite quickly.
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