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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by pynappo »

brabel wrote: post #145
fernandotakai wrote: post #19

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what puzzles me the most is that reddit's reasoning for charging money for their API is that "it's bad that other people are profiting from our work and it's too expensive to maintain without someone paying it". hey, guess what? reddit "profits" a LOT from unpaid work from their moderators. if you wanna charge for API access, you should also pay your moderators since you are profiting from their work.

I'm curious: how does Reddit profits from anything? It seems to me the only revenue they seem to have is ads?? But I use it on the web and never seen ads (except for actual posts that are ads, but those usually get quickly downvoted and I don't even see most of them)... I think people who use Apollo or other apps also like to use Reddit on those because, among other things (like nicer UI) they do not show ads (and pr…

There are definitely sponsored ads that pop up in a feed by default. Downvoting them doesn't change their placement.

There's also reddit premium (no ads, customizable avatar, reddit coins) along with a award system where people can give awards that cost reddit coins to exceptional comments. These awards cost reddit coins which can be gained through either getting awards on comments, or subscribing to reddit premium.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by vesinisa »

jeltz wrote: post #102
Tainnor wrote: post #96

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reasons why HN doesn't work as a reddit replacement: - It has no subforums - Almost everyone here is in IT, other topics only get discussed when they are interesting to IT people. On reddit, you can talk to historians, mathematicians, language enthusiasts, fans of your favourite series, etc. - HN usability on mobile is... yeah - HN is text only, that's already difficult for programming, but would make talking about e…

I agree with everything except the mobile usability. Hacker News has some of the best mobile usability of the websites I am using. It is not perfect but it is way better than Reddit. Hacker News is very comfortable to read on mobile and the only thing which could be improved is the too small voting buttons.

Thanks, zoomed in to upvote

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by stingraycharles »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #160
jacquesm wrote: post #61

48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but tha…

> 48 hours will not even ding reddit. I don't think the direct losses of the 48 outage will be what matters here. Rumors are that Reddit wants to IPO later this year. This blackout will put the spotlight on two issues: - Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community, especially the moderators who provide an essential service for free. - Reddit is out of touch with its own community, and keeps pissing…

> Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community

Are they? Assuming they all go dark for 48 hours, then come back online, and business continues as usual... wouldn't that somewhat prove that Reddit doesn't have to worry too much? What if certain subreddits go dark for extended amounts of times, multiple weeks, maybe even a month. And then new copycat subreddits pop up, what do you think will happen?

Reddit will be fine, the vast majority of the end-users doesn't care or doesn't even know, it's the powerusers and moderators that care a lot.

(FWIW, I absolutely think the protests are justified and Reddit's pricing is insane, but I'm cynical and don't see them being affected by this all that much)

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by plagiarist »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #160
jacquesm wrote: post #61

48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but tha…

> 48 hours will not even ding reddit. I don't think the direct losses of the 48 outage will be what matters here. Rumors are that Reddit wants to IPO later this year. This blackout will put the spotlight on two issues: - Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community, especially the moderators who provide an essential service for free. - Reddit is out of touch with its own community, and keeps pissing…

Showing off mods who will continue working after mild token protests in the post-IPO ad-infested trash hole the site becomes against users' wishes is a great signal for short term gain.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by feyes »

jacquesm wrote: post #165
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 48 hours will not even ding reddit. I don't think the direct losses of the 48 outage will be what matters here. Rumors are that Reddit wants to IPO later this year. This blackout will put the spotlight on two issues: - Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community, especially the moderators who provide an essential service for free. - Reddit is out of touch with its own community, and keeps pissing…

Reddit has some pretty powerful tools at its disposal to re-enable those subreddits and then they can ask who wants to moderate them instead, I think there will be plenty of takers, if the community is in sync with the mods then the mods' play will succeed otherwise the mods are just putting themselves out of business. This whole thing is a nice illustration how when you use someone else's website for your community…

People should just go back to forums. It was better when I didn't know about the absolute nutcases and always felt like forum information was superior to the stuff I find on Reddit.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by darkerside »

sterlind wrote: post #43
gymbeaux wrote: post #24

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It’s incredibly frustrating when you take the time to write something out- something that benefits others and does nothing for you, like sharing your experience or knowledge- only to have the comment removed for one bullshit reason or another. I have never written hate speech or anything racist or in that vein on Reddit, yet I’ve been censored and banned so many times by what I can only assume are children (or childr…

I'm glad your mental health is better, but you come across as an unreliable narrator. I very rarely have my comments removed, and when it has happened, it's never because I posted interesting facts about Cavendish bananas or how VLIW is underrated - it's at least a little controversial or rubs people the wrong way. The problem with downvotes is brigading (trolls overrun your community), and people have to get exposed…

This is true until you start touching 3rd rail topics. And having an experience like parent poster's even one time is one time too many IMO.

I've never had a long and thoughtful post censored, but it's frustrated me the once or twice it happened with a short comment that I didn't believe deserved it.

I agree we need moderation to avoid being a cesspool, but a light touch is absolutely essential.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by wraptile »

jacquesm wrote: post #61

48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but tha…

> 48 hours will not even ding reddit.

I feel like 48 hour long outage for a social media website is huge. That's 2 days for people to look around at alternatives. Remember when google plus launches FB argued that they had zero hours to lose and they were kinda right.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by hoppyhoppy2 »

jacquesm wrote: post #61

48 hours will not even ding reddit. Do it for a month and it will count, assuming reddit doesn't simply re-enable the subreddits. But obviously the mods here are walking a fine line between pissing off their users and getting reddit to bend over. With camarades.com we had a week long outage because of a fire in EV1's DC which then caused the fire marshal to shut everything down for a week (I don't blame them, but tha…

There's another fine line the mods walk: in the past the reddit admins have threatened to simply clean house and appoint new subreddit moderators in the event of an extended subreddit blackout.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by hombre_fatal »

jacquesm wrote: post #165
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 48 hours will not even ding reddit. I don't think the direct losses of the 48 outage will be what matters here. Rumors are that Reddit wants to IPO later this year. This blackout will put the spotlight on two issues: - Reddit is extremely dependent on the goodwill of the community, especially the moderators who provide an essential service for free. - Reddit is out of touch with its own community, and keeps pissing…

Reddit has some pretty powerful tools at its disposal to re-enable those subreddits and then they can ask who wants to moderate them instead, I think there will be plenty of takers, if the community is in sync with the mods then the mods' play will succeed otherwise the mods are just putting themselves out of business. This whole thing is a nice illustration how when you use someone else's website for your community…

Reddit already lets you take over someone’s subreddit if they haven’t posted in N months which happened to me when my subreddit was humming along nicely with no need for me to log into my mod account.

Just giving a subreddit away fits right into that ethos of temporary ownership.

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