I think the Developer of the app is frustrated...
Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
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Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#13I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…
This is exactly the reason I would have never considered to build any apps. I have had couple of ideas but the risk is to big that a faceless corporation is going cancel your business without any reason and visibility.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#14Google can't exactly fix the DMCA like the dev may want, but its fake appeal process is infuriating. You can appeal the takedown to Google but no human will ever validate that the DMCA notice even makes sense. Filing a counter notice is your only option but it also hands over your personal details to whoever filed the DMCA takedown request for a potential lawsuit. This turns the DMCA mechanism into an excellent doxxi…
Last time I was looking into it, the DMCA required that the subject was taken down _before_ you did the verification of the claim. So the DMCA basically is required to be an automatic process.
as it is written, the DMCA strongly favours the accusing party, and there's minimal blowback from a fraudulent claim. It has got to be one of the worst pieces of legislation to have been written and enacted.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#15I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…
This is exactly the reason I would have never considered to build any apps. I have had couple of ideas but the risk is to big that a faceless corporation is going cancel your business without any reason and visibility.
Not sure why this is getting downvoted. It's an existential risk.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#16I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…
So are the web apps having better returns?
Better expected returns, from the sounds of it, since they’re not at risk of being arbitrarily sin-binned without recourse.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#17Its more that Google's implementation of the DMCA is broken. They have automated take downs and have a completely broken appeal process. They certainly aren't the only company failing to deal with the DMCA correctly. There are clauses in the DMCA specifically targetted at false claims, if those were enforced we might start to see a change in the system but as is the DMCA is misused too often.
They don’t get sued for DMCA and they don’t get bothered by disgruntled victims of false positives. Sounds like an absolute win! /s
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
So are the web apps having better returns?
Better expected returns, from the sounds of it, since they’re not at risk of being arbitrarily sin-binned without recourse.
You're absolutely at risk of this.
If you're added to the big bad google blocklist that all major browsers use, which of course is automated, anyone visiting your website will get a big red screen saying "this is a scam please run away".
This happened to my own gitlab instance, which sees around 5 unique visitors a year, and it has happened to popular websites.
The only recourse is to report the issue to google, who, if they feel so kind, will unblock your domain again. Oh, maybe I didn't mention - this block applies to the entire domain. I had the gitlab on git.example.com, and so *.example.com and example.com were all blocked entirely, on all browsers, for everyone in the world. Yes, you can click on a button, and then a tiny link that says "im ok with getting shafted by this scam site" or some such shit.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
So are the web apps having better returns?
Better expected returns, from the sounds of it, since they’re not at risk of being arbitrarily sin-binned without recourse.
A lemon market can be worse than being banned from a market. When banned, at least you can start over or comply to get back in. When its a lemon market, there's no good market.
My observation is that the web has become a lemon market and I'm curious if I'm wrong about it.
Also, you can definitely get banned from the web, be it through being banned from the discovery channels or regulators. You can get banned from Twitter/Reddit/Google etc. and loose your your discovery channels and you can get banned from Gmail and lose your communication channels, you can get banned from Google/Apple/Twitter and lose your account providers.
Re: Google un-bans Downloader app, but developer still mad about “broken” DMCA
#20I had an app that was making about $10,000 USD a month. It was taken down by Google because apparently I copied some other developer's iOS app. I asked them to tell me the name of the iOS app they believed I copied. They named the iOS version of my Android app. They basically accused me of copying myself because the Android version was under my company's name while the iOS version was under my name. Google unbanned t…
> After that ordeal I decided to build web apps only. Way to go ! Not everything can be a web app right now, but it's getting closer every year.
With his finally adding support for web push notifications, I think we are pretty much there already. What else is missing that’s needed for most apps?