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Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by kortilla »

dataengineer56 wrote: post #41
about3fitty wrote: post #20

I own the DocuSign subreddit. We are going dark permanently… until Reddit decides to reassign it to reps from the company. This is part and parcel of the hollowing out of the platform.

> I own the DocuSign subreddit. You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it. I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind o…

It’s not any different than people who “own” a Twitter handle. Should those go up for vote every 2 years as well?

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by bmitc »

jeltz wrote: post #35
gorbachev wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pre-IPO process often involves all kinds of fun short-term profit maximizing activities.

Yeah, I have personally seen companies inflicting hundreds of millions worth of damages to themselves of not billions as part of pre-IPO work. Extra hilarious and sad to watch when the IPO has to be aborted.

Why is it so predictable? I know investors don't care about anything other than returns, but what returns do you get when you tank companies in such diametrically opposed ways from how they've operated before?

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by thinkingemote »

fernandotakai wrote: post #19
deminature wrote: post #3

Pissing off the people doing thankless free labor to keep your subreddits moderated and site functional seems like a poor choice. This is going to be quite an event when it kicks off Monday.

what puzzles me the most is that reddit's reasoning for charging money for their API is that "it's bad that other people are profiting from our work and it's too expensive to maintain without someone paying it". hey, guess what? reddit "profits" a LOT from unpaid work from their moderators. if you wanna charge for API access, you should also pay your moderators since you are profiting from their work.

Another thing is that many moderators are paid but by other companies and PR firms. Reddit doesn't see any of it.

A lot of the content on Reddit is promotion and semi-hidden forms of advertising. Again Reddit doesn't see any of this spend.

In both cases Reddit is paying other companies for using their platform for making money.

Why would a corporation pay hundreds of thousands for ads when they could spend tens of thousands on some employee time to post, comment or moderate and get better results?

I imagine that the commercial entities using Reddit are using third party tools but the changes will hurt normal users more visibly.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by hcks »

deminature wrote: post #3

Pissing off the people doing thankless free labor to keep your subreddits moderated and site functional seems like a poor choice. This is going to be quite an event when it kicks off Monday.

Can we stop pretending the mods are some thankless workers when they literally do it to get power and status over some “community”.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by dataengineer56 »

kortilla wrote: post #81
dataengineer56 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I own the DocuSign subreddit. You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it. I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind o…

It’s not any different than people who “own” a Twitter handle. Should those go up for vote every 2 years as well?

Twitter handles are analogous to Reddit usernames and not subreddits (which are arguably analogous to hashtabs).

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by zirgs »

deminature wrote: post #15
hn_thrwn wrote: post #12

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Getting rid of moderators turns reddit into 4chan. If you want that, fine, but there's already a website for unfiltered hate speech and spam.

Have you been to 4chan? It has moderation. Also - 4chan is not only /pol/ and /b/.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by zirgs »

flangola7 wrote: post #79
gymbeaux wrote: post #24

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It’s incredibly frustrating when you take the time to write something out- something that benefits others and does nothing for you, like sharing your experience or knowledge- only to have the comment removed for one bullshit reason or another. I have never written hate speech or anything racist or in that vein on Reddit, yet I’ve been censored and banned so many times by what I can only assume are children (or childr…

What are some of the verbatim comments you were banned for? On which subs did you post them?

/r/Games banned me for saying that GTA V should not be censored, for example.

Re: Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark

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Post by dataengineer56 »

sverhagen wrote: post #76
pinguinFromY wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By this logic, Americans don't own their land, they were there just in time to conquer it. Or I don't own my home, I was just the first person to buy it.

Except that ownership of land, in America, on balance, provides a little more security than, um, "owning" a Subreddit. But hey, I don't know much about Reddit, and I've not followed much of the discussion, but has it not come up yet that Reddit could penalize these, um (again), "owners" for their uprising by taking their "ownership" away and opening back up these Subreddits?

Reddit has a sea of moderators who quietly moderate hobby subreddits that they're interested in, and then a small number of power moderators who moderate hundreds of subreddits each (and who have coordinated these blackouts). These powermods spend most of their time on metadrama and have little concern over the quality of their subreddits. I think Reddit should absolutely be stripping away control from these powermods.
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