I own the DocuSign subreddit. We are going dark permanently… until Reddit decides to reassign it to reps from the company. This is part and parcel of the hollowing out of the platform.
That's not how ownership works
Reddark: Website to watch subreddits going dark
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
what puzzles me the most is that reddit's reasoning for charging money for their API is that "it's bad that other people are profiting from our work and it's too expensive to maintain without someone paying it". hey, guess what? reddit "profits" a LOT from unpaid work from their moderators. if you wanna charge for API access, you should also pay your moderators since you are profiting from their work.
Reddit isn’t profitable therefore technically it doesn’t profit from anything.
So by their logic they should close their company.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
what puzzles me the most is that reddit's reasoning for charging money for their API is that "it's bad that other people are profiting from our work and it's too expensive to maintain without someone paying it". hey, guess what? reddit "profits" a LOT from unpaid work from their moderators. if you wanna charge for API access, you should also pay your moderators since you are profiting from their work.
The pre-IPO process often involves all kinds of fun short-term profit maximizing activities.
Looks like selling company you helped build because you believed in the idea to people who are only interested in profits often leads to worse service and dissatisfied customers. Who would have thunk.
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#54Too bad we don't have a viable replacement for reddit atm or this would have been end of Reddit
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used to moderate a lot of large subreddits back in the day, and don't understand why the mods don't just shut them down indefinitely, until reddit capitulates. What, I won't be doing a bunch of free labor for a multimillion dollar company while being called a dictator all day? Yes please! Reddit would probably have to step in and start removing moderators, digging their hole even deeper.
Depending on the outcome of the AMA with spez tomorrow [1], and how much it ends up inflaming the situation, that may well happen. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/144ho2x/join_our_ce...
They're going to dodge everything. That "AMA" will be nothing more than a PR-fest of non-answers and dancing akin to one tech CEO or another in congressional testimony.
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#56Imagine there was a free or quasi-free API for Facebook. Facebook would lose large amounts of money on content because they can no longer monetize it with ads.
There's no issue with a non-free API, the issue is the pricing they've decided on and the timescale they've given to adopt it. 30 days notice isn't long enough to adopt a new pricing strategy, especially one so unreasonably priced.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
All badly moderated communities tend to turn to shit. Just look at Wikipedia.
What's wrong with Wikipedia?
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#58Pissing off the people doing thankless free labor to keep your subreddits moderated and site functional seems like a poor choice. This is going to be quite an event when it kicks off Monday.
I used to moderate a lot of large subreddits back in the day, and don't understand why the mods don't just shut them down indefinitely, until reddit capitulates. What, I won't be doing a bunch of free labor for a multimillion dollar company while being called a dictator all day? Yes please! Reddit would probably have to step in and start removing moderators, digging their hole even deeper.
Well, one part of the subreddits say they'll be closed for 24 or 48 hours, others have said they'll be closed until this has been resolved.
Likewise, several major apps (I know of Apollo and RIF) will shut down on the 30th, before the API changes take effect. I'm sure some people will relent and use the official app / website after that, but others will just quit.
I'm not sure yet myself, it'll suddenly make a big gap in my idle mode browsing. I'm sure there'll be other things I can get on with though.
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#59Why is this issue (API pricing) specifically important to reddit mods?
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#60I own the DocuSign subreddit. We are going dark permanently… until Reddit decides to reassign it to reps from the company. This is part and parcel of the hollowing out of the platform.
> I own the DocuSign subreddit. You don't own it, you were just either the first person to create the subreddit or someone who has since becomes the longest-serving moderator on it. I'll never understand how camping on a subreddit gives anyone the right to say that they "own" it or gives them more power over everyone else indefinitely. It's a big flaw in Reddit, I think all subreddits should be put up for some kind o…
By this logic, Americans don't own their land, they were there just in time to conquer it. Or I don't own my home, I was just the first person to buy it.