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Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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>could be the vision of the future of computing, but like, it’s not the one that I want. We'll have to wait and see with Vision Pro, but it's already pretty clear that Zuckerberg's vision is not one that anyone wants.

I’m much more interested in the Quest 3 than the Vision Pro. At least Zuck’s vision includes BeatSaber.

Is beatsaber a meta exclusive? I appreciate lack of motion controllers announced, but that doesn't mean there wont be any, and maybe hand controls are enough for beatsaber?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

Although these devices will be compared to each other ceaselessly, I think they're targeting two distinct markets. Apple believes that Vision Pro is the future of personal computing. Meta keeps marketing the Quest as social-connected VR gaming device. The former market is far larger and anything that displaces the PC will be transcendental. Although Meta will sell more units in the short-term due to Apple's pricing,…

> people don't want to exercise while gaming

Quite a few do. I use Beatsaber, Pistol Whip, and Superhot (more yoga-y than exercise) for this. Boredom during exercise is my primary issue with sustaining it; VR has removed that obstacle.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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20M people bought Quests. More than x-box in the same period. I find this writing off of their sales achievements as really superficial. Whatever else you want to say, they shifted units and the people buying them wanted something he was selling.

They're using it for games, but not Horizon Worlds which is arguably the vision.

That should be taken as a hint that people don't want VR video conferencing which is the target use for Apple's headset. TBH i don't want an avatar face, real faces in a simple Zoom call are more expressive.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

"spatial computing" is such a silly marketing phrase. All we saw was 2D windows placed in a fake 3D world. It's all just an aesthetic upgrade, a minor QOL improvement that has its own downsides, nothing more.

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This sounded weak to me. Apple is making an integrated headset: their own lenses, processor, ..., down to the operating system. The Quest uses an Android based operating system and a lot of off the shelf components. We've seen this story before and it hasn't ended well for the folks in Mark's position. A personal device like these headsets needs to be delightful . It has to be responsive. It has to have the little to…

I really don't understand why nobody else has managed making decent touchpads. Is it not extremely high priority??

Dell, HP and the enterprises that buy them don’t really care about UX.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m much more interested in the Quest 3 than the Vision Pro. At least Zuck’s vision includes BeatSaber.

Is beatsaber a meta exclusive? I appreciate lack of motion controllers announced, but that doesn't mean there wont be any, and maybe hand controls are enough for beatsaber?

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m much more interested in the Quest 3 than the Vision Pro. At least Zuck’s vision includes BeatSaber.

Is beatsaber a meta exclusive? I appreciate lack of motion controllers announced, but that doesn't mean there wont be any, and maybe hand controls are enough for beatsaber?

Meta bought the company that makes BeatSaber so I assume it is at this point. But without controllers and haptic feedback it wouldn’t be very fun anyways.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

"spatial computing" is such a silly marketing phrase. All we saw was 2D windows placed in a fake 3D world. It's all just an aesthetic upgrade, a minor QOL improvement that has its own downsides, nothing more.

That's a skeumorphic anchor to get people comfortable with a new technology. If you're going to introduce technology to the masses, you have to do it in stages. There's a lot more going on here than is apparent on the surface.

You could have said all of things about the original iPhone. It did similar things to a lot of existing smartphones at the time (send email, play music, browse web, make call).

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

Also, i don't understand the reasoning behind not having controllers. You are freeing up your hands for ... what? You are already wearing a blindfold on your face. ( I think the passthrough will be used very little because in most cases it's distracting)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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I'm guessing that the Vision Pro will actually help Quest sales in the short term, since many people will want the Vision Pro but will settle for the Quest 3, since it'll be 7 times cheaper.

Or Quest 2 that is 11 times cheaper. And has a higher refresh rate than Vision Pro.
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