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Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Never noticed any issues with snap, but truth be told I seldom use it for installing anything. If someone is unhappy with snap why use it? There is no requirement to use snap, usually you can get .deb from somewhere, you can find ppa, or install from source.

Honestly, don't know what distro some of these people are using. Maybe the last time they tried snaps they were slow but they have the same startup speed as anything else now.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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You can't disable UEFI in your BIOS settings? That's what I do.

That may be a good idea, but I honestly haven't looked into it. My preference is for operating systems to just work, rather than me change all my motherboards to accommodate them

Arch does "just work" it's more of an issue with booting from a live image you are encountering by the sounds of things. Ironically your preferred OS is derivative of Arch and considered less stable by many users of both systems.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Arch Linux is a meme but also a really solid distro. I'm writing this from a 2+ year old Arch install that has had basically 0 stability issues. "Rolling release" gets an undeserved bad reputation in my opinion, and many arch packages aren't as bleeding edge as you'd expect. Compared to Ubuntu where I'd often have major issues in between releases, I don't think I could ever go back.

I ran Arch for about six months back in 2021 on a Thinkpad. As I recall the mouse driver would reset like once a day. I'd be mousing around and suddenly the pointer would teleport to the top-left corner. And the wifi would intermittently slow way down until I restart it.

So I switched to Ubuntu. And the wifi troubles continued. But the mouse troubles went away.

Perhaps I'd have a better time with a desktop.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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It's the default now.

Yup, and installing Firefox via apt installs a snap as well. I manually had to add a separate apt repo for Firefox alone. I seem to have to do this more and more for things that just can't be slow on my machine.

Yep, I did the same. But I don't want to mess around with hacks like that any more, so my next distro isn't going to be Ubuntu, even though I've used some Ubuntu variant for over a decade now. I'm looking at Tumbleweed for my next distro.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Snaps are awful. Even simple programs like 'calculator' take multiple seconds to start. I'm planning to bail on Ubuntu soon as well.

Sounds like they worked too hard on making things feel safe and familiar to Windows users who might want to migrate.

Ah yes, the mythical Windows user who's finally ready to switch to Linux now after all these decades.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Arch Linux is a meme but also a really solid distro. I'm writing this from a 2+ year old Arch install that has had basically 0 stability issues. "Rolling release" gets an undeserved bad reputation in my opinion, and many arch packages aren't as bleeding edge as you'd expect. Compared to Ubuntu where I'd often have major issues in between releases, I don't think I could ever go back.

Arch is my ideal distro, but since my motherboards started using UEFI I just haven't been able to install it. I followed the instructions from the Install Wiki[0], but just couldn't figure it out. Manjaro's been a nice in-between with a painless installation process [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide

Arch has an installer these days. It's great and should take care of you!

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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I just moved my Raspberry Pi 4 (8MB) from Ubuntu to Debian 11. I run Ubuntu in several other environments so having one common Linux has been good. But Debian 11 is significantly faster. Same hardware, just noticeably faster. There are a few anomalies, I suspect mostly from the fact that Gnome is a post install add on. The Gnome network applet doesn't work but the network works fine. The only thing that is problemati…

Check out DietPi — Debian-based OS with optimized software packages for devices such as Raspberry Pi. And super easy upgrade options.

https://dietpi.com

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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I've been running Arch for about a decade now and it's only seriously broken a few (low single digits) times. Here are the main failure modes I've experienced: The biggest one seems to be something related to the package mirrors only partially updating, or updates of common dependencies not being atomically applied to all packages - something like that. If you do a pacman -Syu in the middle of the critical time perio…

>User software can have bugs in newer releases, but they're usually minor - you'll still be able to get work done without much disruption. And that's not really an Arch issue . Unless the bug is reported & fixed very quickly, Ubuntu/Fedora are likely to also get the buggy versions, just later. And this is the thing people ignore when they say they have no issues with cutting edge (not necessarily rolling release, whi…

Are we the same person? Haha small world. I thought the broken icons were a thing I did while changing some XDG paths

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Maybe ten years ago I jumped from Ubuntu to Fedora, can't remember why - just wanted to shake things up maybe? This year I installed Mint on my main machine. Contemplating a switch to Debian 12 when it's out - but might not bother, Mint has been really nice. What drove me from Fedora was mostly the need to upgrade every 6 months, and the short support windows.

My only problems with Mint is that I don't care about Cinnamon, and when things go wrong the only forum that will help you with that particular frankendebian is the Mint forum, which is woefully inadequate. If you want to quickly fix what's broken, Arch, Debian, and Fedora are aces, everything else is trouble imo.

Why not use the MATE edition?
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