Why are API calls less cost-efficient than getting the same information on a browser?
A lot of third-party apps don't show Reddit's ads.
There isn't any way to in the first place: the API contains no way to show them even if the apps wanted to.
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of third-party apps don't show Reddit's ads.
Why not update the API contract that if you use the Reddit API you need to render the ads? If you don't render the Ads they can come up with some pricing model. Seems like Reddit's pricing is designed by an MBA intern who just joined silicon valley.
That would require the API to also include ad information. I think putting a sensible price on API access would make this a bit simpler, though (and allow for a paid ad-free experience as well). The core issue isn't so much paid API access as the price being so crazy high it can't possibly reflect how much reddit would normally be making from the users of these apps, so instead looks like it is aimed at just shutting down 3rd party apps entirely.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or, you know, Digg. Digg's demise was literally the birth of Reddit's popularity, but the lesson was seemingly lost on Reddit "leadership".
Yet Digg.com for whatever reason still exists. I wonder how these old websites that seemingly no one uses still churn out money?
Sell to someone who specializes in making money off of core audiences, cut costs, focus on revenue generators like micro transactions.
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#254I’ll be honest, HN is the last place I’d expect to find people who underestimate the difficulty of creating a social network, but every single post about Reddit lately has had one or more comments about how the creators of Reddit clients should “just” make their own backend and take their users with them.
Dude, don’t kill my velocity. My `create-next-app` command just finished and I’m going to wrap up this side project by Sunday evening. I’ll be starting with the Frontend first. /s
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#255A hard problem to solve. But if there was ever and opportunity for twitter to use its resources to create a competing platform it would be right now. They could create “twitter groups” and basically mimic the functionality of Reddit. They could even start it as a separate service and slowly merge them (to avoid any negative preconception of the twitter as a brand).
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#256Reading the headlines, I'm in Apollo's camp. But holy moly, this guy does himself no favors with extremely hard to follow comms where he is trying to make a deal: https://gist.github.com/christianselig/fda7e8bc5a25aec9824f9... (This is Apollo's lead dev). Again, I'm not an apologist for Reddit -- their pricing is absurd -- my point is simply this drama seems expounded because of frankly bad comms. EDIT: its also nuts…
That conversation was so confusing to follow, and the usage of the idioms like "Bob's your uncle" did not help in the slightest (had to search that one up)
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#257There’s a small but real chance that this movement turns into a mass exodus from reddit. Mismanagement can absolutely kill social media companies, and when it happens it happens fast. Take the mass exodus from FreeNode as an example. The thing to watch for is if the admins take control of any major subreddits. That’s what killed FreeNode.
There is no alternative, so I'm not sure where people would move to.
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#258You know the Digg self destruct was 13 years ago? Time sure does fly. I guess it's time for reddit to complete the cycle as well.
If 13 years turns out to be some sort of period for this cycle (like cicadas?) maybe we can name it after you.
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#259Up until not long ago there would be plenty of post here saying how Google is useless and how appending `site:reddit.com` to any query was the only way to get decent results. This thread is all about how bad reddit is, as if their content has disappeared. They don't need defense but I'm amazed at how volatile people's opinions are.
At least part of the difference is that Reddit can be a useful forum for technical troubleshooting of apps / programs. But the dissent in the thread is in reference to it as a social media platform - I think.
Exactly this, it happens to have a long history of questions/answers for most topics, so I pretty much use it as a search engine.
OTOH Reddit as a social media seems like a dumpster fire with a toxic culture, community, and mods. (Not talking about all subs here, I know that many subs are wholesome and inviting)
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#260This will make no difference at all. RIF, Apollo and narwhale apps should all team up and create (or partner up) with a reddit clone. All the founders of these apps just seem oblivious to this. Or maybe there's a dead tight contract they signed or something but I'd do it anyway.
https://tildes.net/
Do you have any remaining invites?