Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

hackaday.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

141–150 of 242 posts

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#141

Post by snerbles »

packetlost wrote: post #74
muppetman wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You deal with it by being happy that it doesn't constantly change UI/Interface/Features and break your workflow unexpectedly sometimes. Yes, you don't always have the latest and greatest and if that's a solid requirement, Debian isn't a good choice. But for a stable, not-going-to-change-out-from-under-you point of view, Debian is fantastic. Software you can rely on that's still patched for security issues.

Debian is really solid as a server OS. I wouldn't use it for desktop unless you're using ancient hardware. My days of using CentOS as a development workstation are thankfully behind me. I will never use a long-release cycle distro for primary development, the headaches that come with it are not worth it.

Debian 11 works fine on my Framework, I wouldn't call that ancient.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#142

Post by djcannabiz »

pimterry wrote: post #27

I've been using Regolith (Ubuntu + well-integrated i3) happily for a while, but the Snap moves from Ubuntu are a massive turn-off. Looks like Regolith can in theory be installed on top of Pop!_OS which seems to target the same audience while going in a more sensible direction. Anybody tried that combo, or have any feedback on PopOS in general?

Regolith looks really cool, thanks for sharing. Gonna check this out tonight

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#143

Post by smegsicle »

snerbles wrote: post #141
packetlost wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian is really solid as a server OS. I wouldn't use it for desktop unless you're using ancient hardware. My days of using CentOS as a development workstation are thankfully behind me. I will never use a long-release cycle distro for primary development, the headaches that come with it are not worth it.

Debian 11 works fine on my Framework, I wouldn't call that ancient.

well it's designed to work with linux, which makes it honorary ancient

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#144

Post by kstenerud »

cabirum wrote: post #35
dyingkneepad wrote: post #20

Just a reminder to everybody, Debian 12 is about to release in 2 days. A few years ago I moved back from Ubuntu to Debian and couldn't be happier.

How do you deal with grossly outdated software on Debian Desktop?

I haven't noticed anything grossly outdated. I have some Debian and some Ubuntu desktop machines, and honestly I couldn't tell the difference except when trying to install stable diffusion (bleeding edge software with official support for Ubuntu only).

I also used to run Debian on my server machines but switched to NixOS - although I'm now seriously considering switching back to Debian since it has far less headaches and just works.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#145

Post by howinteresting »

mrtedbear wrote: post #59
Topfi wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fedora Workstation and especially Silverblue made Linux work for me in a way no distribution I have used before has been able to. Being bleeding edge yet stable and reliable just made it so pleasant, coming from a mix of Slitaz, Elementary and Manjaro.

Also switched to Silverblue and love it. Ubuntu wasn't especially bad, it was more that Silverblue made so much sense. It fixed the issues I was having with other distros where messiness would creep into my setup over time. I also tried NixOS, but it felt too rigid. Silverblue offered the same benefits of immutability without a loss of flexibility.

Do you do development on it? If so, how do you work around Silverblue's restrictions? Curious about people's experiences.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#146

Post by friend_and_foe »

Manjaro isn't much better. They tried to force a proprietary office suite on their users and tried their hand at the adware thing too.

Stop relying on "user friendly" distros, you haven't needed them for almost a decade, most common distributions run out of the box with no problems most of the time.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#147

Post by hedora »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #20

Just a reminder to everybody, Debian 12 is about to release in 2 days. A few years ago I moved back from Ubuntu to Debian and couldn't be happier.

I have a devuan desktop, but it somehow self-nuked its grub.

I really, really dislike systemd, but the other desktop is a manjaro setup. It was stable for a while, but now something with logind (which is somehow related to systemd) broke.

The one reason I switched to manjaro is that the machine is shared between kids and two parents, and I wanted to be able to switch accounts from the screensaver prompt. That routinely fails now.

I really wish there was a debuggable (so, not systemd) Linux distribution where things like account switching, zoom and steam worked. Manjaro is the closest thing I've found. I wish one of the *BSD's worked for that. (I genuinely like my OpenBSD router, but I only log into it every year or so, because, well, it just works.)

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#148

Post by dboreham »

elischleifer wrote: post #4
thx-2718 wrote: post #3

Lately I've been running Fedora. Early Ubtuntu & Mark Shuttleworth were a big part of my teens and my first real experience with a Linux Desktop and Philosophy tied to Open Source Software. It's been fun watching Ubuntu evolve over the years and see distros like Mint evolve off of them as well.

Devil's advocate...how much do we really care about these different distros at this point. The world lives out of the browser. As long as I have chrome and VS Code I'm pretty good to go.

Some people run servers.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

#149

Post by bluGill »

monsieurgaufre wrote: post #63
talkingtab wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it is so much the snaps that are the problem, but that it is hard to get around them. I choose not to use snaps (or would like to choose that), but I find I am constantly fighting them. Why do I have a mount of some snap thing? Why does Firefox have to be a snap? I have enough things to know about without having to learn about snaps. sigh. So I am moving away from Ubuntu after years of being a happy use…

What are you constantly fighting with snaps about? What snaps are you using that are so broken that you have to fight with it? I mean that seriously. I've never had this experience and I've used Ubuntu for ~15 years.

The defaults are not sane. Sure it is nice they restrict applications, until you open a DVD reader and discover it can't talk to the DVD drive.
Post reply on HN