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r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

> Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?

Maybe they can go to whatever platform the banned subreddits reformed on. Unfortunately many of the subreddit communities that are now being screwed over in the same fashion by Reddit were cheering on that behavior when others were targeted.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Going back to decentralised individual forums seems like a better idea than centralising and giving control to a few individuals and corporations.

Some of those old phpBB and vBulletin forums never went away. They tend to be ones covering niche subjects, though. We might start seeing more of these with the enshittification of all of today's social media landscape.

I remember the haydays of phpBB forums back in the early 2000s and I just gotta say that they brought the (mod) drama just as good as any subreddit.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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I wish I had a lobste.rs membership now.

Why, it's closed to new members so no one comments. It's not a place to replace reddit. You are better off going to slashdot.. similiar level of conversation as reddit and many more comments and similiar number of daily stories compared to lobste.rs

Slashdot was great, until better discussion forums came along. Going back to Slashdot after more than a decade of old style Reddit would be like scratching my nails down a chalkboard. Unpleasant in many ways.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I'd just add there is a pretty major difference between "temporarily" and "permanently". Major kudos to r/ProgrammerHumor and other subs that are doing it right - saying they will be shutting down indefinitely unless Reddit changes their stance. A permanent closure of a popular sub is 100% going to lead to Reddit declaring the sub abandoned, replacing the mod team, and reopening. Has happened many times before.…

> replacing the mod team, That's like immigrant jobs: You can take them away but there aren't hoards of passionate volunteers chomping at the bit to replace them.

I mean, there's plenty of people lining up to have the "authority" of an internet mod, but not so many that can be trusted not to set up their own petty dictatorship or get bored when they realise what mods actually mostly do.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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I don't practically see how a popular subreddit can shut down. Corporate can just install different mods. The user base mainstreamed a long time ago, and I would be surprised if there was much on-principle meaningful collective action. OTOH, taking away someone's beloved app, hitting them with big usability downgrade... that's not just principle, and they could lose those users.

Who will they put in charge? Admins? There aren't enough.

There's a process (/r/redditrequest) where people can ask the admins to assign them as mods of abandoned subs. The existing mods of a requested sub can object, and it's really only supposed to be used when there is no active mod account, but I'm sure someone will eventually say "they're squatting on the name /r/ProgrammerHumor, can I have it instead?" and the admins will approve it.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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This organized “protest” is starting to look like a great move from Reddit to flush the userbase to replace with new users. Field burning is a commonly used (unsustainable) technique in agriculture.

Replace with new users? How do you go about doing that and why would they want that?

Yeah, that comment doesn't make a damned bit of sense, unless there are 50 million people out there who are like "man, I'd totally switch to Reddit if their shitty app had more ads, there were no third-party apps, and the site was worse. I had no idea their CEO was such a scumbucket! This revelation makes their company and product significantly more attractive to me."

Social media users are notoriously fickle. If you have a vast, devoted community of longtime users, the last thing you want to do is drive them all away.

I think Reddit just got too entitled: forgot how much they rely on their users and figured they could get away with anything because they're just too indispensable to fail. It happens.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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These “protests” strike me as strange. Ostensibly, everyone’s goal is for Reddit to reverse their decision. However, I can’t help but think many users want to quit Reddit, and this is the straw that is breaking the camel’s back.

Reddit has its moments but I still enjoy it. It's a fun time sink between sets at the gym or if I'm stuck on a bike pedaling and have tired yet again of Duolingo. That said, I have a tendency to filter a fair bit to avoid the major problems but there's going to be some news that I should hear but is not good news either. I had a chat the other day with a friend. He's deleted the app as he's been on it quite heavily a…

If you're pedaling on a bike you should probably be looking at the road!

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Up until not long ago there would be plenty of post here saying how Google is useless and how appending `site:reddit.com` to any query was the only way to get decent results. This thread is all about how bad reddit is, as if their content has disappeared. They don't need defense but I'm amazed at how volatile people's opinions are.

It's always important to keep in mind that HN is big and any given thread attracts a different group of people. What appears to be volatility of opinions is actually volatility of who is participating.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

#220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying to forget it. Honestly Discourse is truly awful. Navigation is terrible, finding stuff is terrible, the UX in general is just so bad compared to what it tries to replace (BB forums).

How it is any different from a streamlined BB forum? * Topics are sorted the exact same way as a BB, by default. * Posts have all the usual multimedia features. * The search actually works. * It's super fast and minimal. I'm generally curious what your UX frustrations are here...

1. You click a search result and the content that showed up in the search result snippet is not on the page you get linked to because it's only lazily loading the N most recent replies and there's been more than N since it was indexed by a search engine

2. When you try to Ctrl-F search it hijacks it with the server side search, it is slower than the browser search. It also does not reliably default to search in this thread, and sometimes fails to find content that's on screen even.

3. The WIP reply draft is synced across all your tabs, which can be obnoxious if you're trying to read one post to reply in another topic based on its contents.

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