Nanoplastic Ingestion Causes Neurological Deficits

Post by ricardobeat » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 12:03 AM UTC

ifyoubuildit wrote: post #230

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That's a ridiculous analogy. What about suger-free sodas, or sparkling water without even artificial sweeteners? What about people who drink soda, but still don't go over the daily recommended sugar intake, and otherwise have healthy lifestyles? I'd be willing to make two assumptions: 1. A gaping wound in your leg is probably less healthy than a moderately-high sugar consumption. 2. People who are concerned about nan…

I think sparkling water is a great alternative, but I'm skeptical that all the fake sugars will turn out to be much better in the end. We seem to have a habit of replacing known bad things with things that we just haven't found out are bad yet.

Post by DubiousPusher » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 12:13 AM UTC

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> IF we eliminated all PFAS chemicals today, society would collapse. I think this is a failure of imagination. The modern world, largely as we appreciate it today, existed in 1940 in Europe and the U.S. That is well before the widespread deployment of plastics. It was a world in which everyone, including the very rich did with a little less but still, a fairly high quality of life. The only question that separates th…

In 1940, (with the exception of primitive point-contact radar diodes) there was no production of semiconductor devices. Without PFAS there would be no production of modern electronic devices, so no computers and no mobile phones. Nevertheless, unlike with PFAS used in things like clothes, kitchenware or packing, when PFAS are used in industrial processes or in electronic equipment (as high-frequency electrical insula…

Post by DubiousPusher » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 12:17 AM UTC

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I think the biggest material impact for any curb on plastics would largely be felt in medicine. Disposability is huge in preventing infection. Also, many medical implants rely on the combination of elasticity and strength found in plastics.

Maybe focus on all the non-essential shit people buy every day then first.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

bequanna wrote: post #273

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Your typical modern American suburb is homes that would be three family homes 60 years ago on land that would fit three of those homes let alone a normal size house. All of this is subsidized by tax write-offs and gasoline that is 50% discounted relative to the rest of the developed world. Not much freedom of movement when everything even a neighbor is a 15 minute drive away either due to sprawl or trafic.

“Subsidized by tax write offs” Umm, are you referring to the being able to write off mortgage interest on your personal residence? What exactly does this have to do with suburbs?

Post by DubiousPusher » Fri, Jun 09, 2023, 12:22 AM UTC

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I think the biggest material impact for any curb on plastics would largely be felt in medicine. Disposability is huge in preventing infection. Also, many medical implants rely on the combination of elasticity and strength found in plastics.

Medical use of plactic is a minuscule minority of plastic use. The vast majority of disposable, single-use plastic is not actually necessary. I'd be shocked if less than 90% of single-use disposable plastic was from food containers. Hell, I'd be pretty surprised if it were less than 99%.