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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by StrictDabbler »

ipaddr wrote: post #40
diego_moita wrote: post #7

I wish I had a lobste.rs membership now.

Why, it's closed to new members so no one comments. It's not a place to replace reddit. You are better off going to slashdot.. similiar level of conversation as reddit and many more comments and similiar number of daily stories compared to lobste.rs

Suggesting that slashdot has a similar level of conversation to Reddit is deeply depressing regardless of how accurate it might be.

My slashdot ID is six digits. I check in about thrice a year and leave sad.

For me it's like going to a podcast festival. Everybody's a bearded white 40 year old man. They're mostly saying things that make sense but there's an uneasy sense that I've walked into an echo-chamber.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by willcipriano »

afavour wrote: post #88
willcipriano wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Posted: 6:00 PM Jun 6, 2023 > 107.7M Views You sure about that? https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1666203439146172419

I agree that Twitter is far from dead but you’re choosing a bad example. > The main Twitter video view metric is triggered when a user watches a video for at least 2 seconds and sees at least 50% of the video player in-view. So anyone that had the (auto playing) video in view for two seconds as they scrolled through their feed. Multiplied by the number of times it’s in their feed. It’s a pretty meaningless number.

How about:

> 845.9K Likes

> 237.6K Retweets

In a day and a half for a ten minute video of a guy in his basement talking. It isn't even a video platform.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by EscapeFromNY »

mrtksn wrote: post #85
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

>All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Is this true though? Are the subs which normal people visit are shutting down too?

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/1401qw5/incomplet...

There's the list so far. Definitely some heavy hitters in there.

Note that if you want to see the full list you'll have to click through to the second thread, since they hit the character limit :)

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by DeepPhilosopher »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

"Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet?" Yes. It's called Lemmy. https://join-lemmy.org Just found out about it today.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by andai »

willis936 wrote: post #38
hifromLA wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’d be hard pressed to find social media that doesn’t trend towards toxicity, but Reddit in particular seems to have a culture of users that want to feel superior at any cost. They’re always looking to put down others and they’re often rewarded for doing so.

It's the public point system. HN identified this accurately and early.

Also, the culture of civility (and contributing something meaningful) is strictly enforced.

The mods are hard at work making sure HN stays a place worth visiting.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by madeofpalk »

trevor-e wrote: post #89
tamrix wrote: post #20

This will make no difference at all. RIF, Apollo and narwhale apps should all team up and create (or partner up) with a reddit clone. All the founders of these apps just seem oblivious to this. Or maybe there's a dead tight contract they signed or something but I'd do it anyway.

Building the backend component for a social media site like Reddit is much much much harder than slapping a frontend onto an existing API. And it's en entirely different engineering skillset (distributed systems) that many app developers don't have. You really think they are "oblivious to this"? The reality is it's hard to do.

Building the backend is the easy part. Moderating (as in real moderation - horrific content) it is the actual hard part.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by raincole »

bryancoxwell wrote: post #55

I’ll be honest, HN is the last place I’d expect to find people who underestimate the difficulty of creating a social network, but every single post about Reddit lately has had one or more comments about how the creators of Reddit clients should “just” make their own backend and take their users with them.

Is it hard? Yes.

Is it harder than trying to influence Reddit by these "protests"? No, because the later has 0 chance of success.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by mjfl »

idlewords wrote: post #64
DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

This could be as consequential as the time all Reddit shut down to protest net neutrality.

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Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by schlauerfox »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #17

HN might as well just run the headline that Reddit is shutting down permanently. All the major subs are either temporarily or permanently shutting down in protest. Do we have a federated Mastodon-esque system to replace Reddit yet? Its the only way to ensure the community survives at this point; Reddit leadership has already proven they only wish to harm both shareholders and the community at large under the guise of…

I plan to avoid the platform as I can, but I worry the admin response will be to revoke the communities from their current moderators and install more cooperative scabs, which will have a profound effect on these communities. I'm not sure what the future holds, but reddit can't walk it back now, so I think it will end badly.

Re: r/ProgrammerHumor will be shutting down to protest Reddit's API changes

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Post by Pufferbo »

bryancoxwell wrote: post #55

I’ll be honest, HN is the last place I’d expect to find people who underestimate the difficulty of creating a social network, but every single post about Reddit lately has had one or more comments about how the creators of Reddit clients should “just” make their own backend and take their users with them.

Dude, don’t kill my velocity. My `create-next-app` command just finished and I’m going to wrap up this side project by Sunday evening. I’ll be starting with the Frontend first. /s
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