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Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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I'm was sticking to ubuntu because 1. NVidia seem to love debian/ubuntu more that other distros, and in general I don't want to waste much time with setting up machine learning env/CUDA on my machines 2. work has debian based distro, so using same tool/mindset is convenient but I really want to get rid of it because of snaps and overall attitute (previous controversies with their unity desktop manager, ads in it etc)…

Anecdotal but I've had a lot less cuda/nvidia driver breaking moments with Arch than Ubuntu.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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I've been using Regolith (Ubuntu + well-integrated i3) happily for a while, but the Snap moves from Ubuntu are a massive turn-off. Looks like Regolith can in theory be installed on top of Pop!_OS which seems to target the same audience while going in a more sensible direction. Anybody tried that combo, or have any feedback on PopOS in general?

I switched over to Pop OS and Regolith 2 about a month ago and I'm very happy with it, it's the same experience as using it with Ubuntu.

I have had some trouble with the Pop Shop leaking memory, freezing, and crashing, but you can disable it and use Gnome Software if you want a gui.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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post #35

Just a reminder to everybody, Debian 12 is about to release in 2 days. A few years ago I moved back from Ubuntu to Debian and couldn't be happier.

How do you deal with grossly outdated software on Debian Desktop?

FWIW I run Debian bullseye on the desktop and don't have any issues with any of the software I use, like web browsers and IM clients.

I'm not running anything fancy locally so perhaps it's an unusual case, and I will admit that I can't print from my desktop for reasons I've never bothered to look into, so the experience isn't 100%; but I prefer it to running Windows, which is becoming more and more like an OS-as-a-service-with-ads by the day.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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post #36

If you have the stomach for starting from nothing and installing only what you need, Alpine is wonderful. It uses musl libc so there are some things you need flatpaks for, but the vast majority of stuff I've tried just works, and it's small enough that the entire OS is comprehensible to a mere mortal.

I'm also using Alpine, but 100% of binary distributions of software I've tried have failed to run. Even AppImages don't run on Alpine, due to lack of glibc. It's honestly pretty frustrating--though I don't blame Alpine for this!

As a mitigation, I use Nix to run anything that isn't packaged for Alpine (e.g. Deno), and that actually works pretty well, but having a parallel set of libraries kind of defeats my whole purpose for running Alpine, namely a having trim system without any bloat (on a netbook with 1 GB of RAM).

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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post #35

Just a reminder to everybody, Debian 12 is about to release in 2 days. A few years ago I moved back from Ubuntu to Debian and couldn't be happier.

How do you deal with grossly outdated software on Debian Desktop?

You deal with it by being happy that it doesn't constantly change UI/Interface/Features and break your workflow unexpectedly sometimes. Yes, you don't always have the latest and greatest and if that's a solid requirement, Debian isn't a good choice. But for a stable, not-going-to-change-out-from-under-you point of view, Debian is fantastic. Software you can rely on that's still patched for security issues.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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post #3

Lately I've been running Fedora. Early Ubtuntu & Mark Shuttleworth were a big part of my teens and my first real experience with a Linux Desktop and Philosophy tied to Open Source Software. It's been fun watching Ubuntu evolve over the years and see distros like Mint evolve off of them as well.

Fedora Workstation and especially Silverblue made Linux work for me in a way no distribution I have used before has been able to. Being bleeding edge yet stable and reliable just made it so pleasant, coming from a mix of Slitaz, Elementary and Manjaro.

Also switched to Silverblue and love it.

Ubuntu wasn't especially bad, it was more that Silverblue made so much sense. It fixed the issues I was having with other distros where messiness would creep into my setup over time.

I also tried NixOS, but it felt too rigid. Silverblue offered the same benefits of immutability without a loss of flexibility.

Re: Bye Bye Ubuntu, Hello Manjaro. How Did We Get Here?

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post #29

I gave up on Ubuntu after some snap frustrations. I tried Nix but couldn't figure out how to install some software I needed (dealt with plugins). I tried Manjaro but the system was unbootable after a software update soon after install and I just don't want to fight problems like that anymore. I've been using Mint but recently am giving PopOs a try but they've not fixed enough of the Gnome 3 usability problems. Been a…

If you're coming from "Ubuntu was what I needed but sucks with recent decisions" have you thought about using popOs with a different desktop environment? (like xfce, or KDE)

My experience is you get what Ubuntu used to have that way, i.e. no thrills reliability, so would definitely recommend it

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