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Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by isk517 »

browningstreet wrote: post #45
redkinght99 wrote: post #8

Taurine? I've been jacking myself full of that since Middle School! Thanks RedBull! Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you " In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it.

MSM media is always trying to convince people they can live longer if they stick with coffee, berries, dark chocolate and wine — as if those foods needed boosters. And if true I’m quite sure we’d have people out there living to 150…

You probably can live longer if you stick with coffee (black), berries (minus the food you put the berries on top of), dark chocolate (unsweetened), and wine (in strict moderation).

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Post by fullspectrumdev »

winddude wrote: post #63
throwaway888abc wrote: post #37

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Can't stop laughing. The day after is terrible, but with the aging factor relevated - here is the recipe of favorite anti-aging cocktail Jäger Bomb Ingredients 1 1/2 ounces Jägermeister Liqueur 1/2 (8.4-ounce) can Red Bull energy drink https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713

or a nice steak. 1 - 14oz steak, season with tiptop steak seasoning, grill 3-4mins per side on med heat. let rest 5 mins. enjoy.

The nice steak and its sides provide the essential… stomach lining… to cope with the jägerbomb

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by detrites »

Blackthorn wrote: post #62
snapcaster wrote: post #39

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You don't know this! I don't take issue with you consuming it but you absolutely shouldn't have confidence that there aren't negative effects from consuming something humans never had to adapt to. Just say "we don't know of anything wrong with consuming it"

These artificial sweeteners are among the most studied chemicals in the world. At some point you've gotta say okay, they're fine, or okay, they're not.

Studied by whom for what goal? They're also some of the most astutely-avoided substances, with various products proudly proclaiming they don't contain them. Such markets could well potentially exist due to user experience trumping studies.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

codeflo wrote: post #69
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #66

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The basic formula from mouse to human is (X mg * (3/37)) = human equivalent dose in mg/kg. In this case (1000mg * 3/37)) comes out to 81mg/kg. So, if you weigh 80kg, it comes out to 6.48 grams per day. That's a lot of taurine, but not really a crazy amount. Easy enough to consume.

Is there a precise biological explanation for that factor, e.g. metabolism rate or something?

> oxygen utilization, caloric expenditure, basal metabolism, blood volume, circulating plasma proteins, and renal function

The equation is from here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17942826/

For what it's worth, the rat equation is (X mg * (6/37))

Keep in mind that it's a loose/general guideline. Basically a starting point. But usually a quite accurate one.

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Post by detrites »

pmoriarty wrote: post #57
lostmsu wrote: post #28

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Anecdata: a heavy (2 x 8oz cans/day) consumer of Red Bull I got sleep problems starting around 34. Can't be sure they are related, but Red Bull is definitely the main suspect.

I've developed sleep problems as I've gotten older, but I've never touched Red Bull. We can't draw any generalizable conclusions from isolated anecdotes like this.

Sure, but something formulated as a profound energy stimulant containing the equivalent of a cup of coffee of caffeine plus other energy boosters could be rightly suspected of affecting energy levels, and so possibly also sleep, given two per day?

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Post by hombre_fatal »

baremetal wrote: post #25
Blackthorn wrote: post #4

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I know I won't change anyone's already set opinions here, but for anyone reading this and not sure what is being discussed: there's absolutely nothing wrong with consuming sucralose.

Sucralose found in common sweetener damages DNA, may cause cancer [1] [1] https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sucralose-found-in...

Reality: At the very highest concentrations of the sucralose compound tested in this study, using cells in petri dishes, one marker of gene damage was slightly elevated

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #50
lostmsu wrote: post #28

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Anecdata: a heavy (2 x 8oz cans/day) consumer of Red Bull I got sleep problems starting around 34. Can't be sure they are related, but Red Bull is definitely the main suspect.

That’s a high amount of sugar. That by itself can’t be too good.

I doubt the sugar alone is to blame and not the high caffeine content.

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Post by Scoundreller »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #56
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #14

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That's good to know my retirement plan will keep me looking young.

Bad plan Cat food is incredibly expensive!

At the low end of the market (had a cat that lived 19y on this stuff), Meow Mix original is 3500 calories per kg. A 10kg bag costs $35 in Canadian dollars or about US$28.

So just a couple dollars a day for an adult.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by Blackthorn »

detrites wrote: post #73
Blackthorn wrote: post #62

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These artificial sweeteners are among the most studied chemicals in the world. At some point you've gotta say okay, they're fine, or okay, they're not.

Studied by whom for what goal? They're also some of the most astutely-avoided substances, with various products proudly proclaiming they don't contain them. Such markets could well potentially exist due to user experience trumping studies.

So I take it you're on the "okay, they're not" side of that divide?

I mean, how many more decades does one need to really make a decision on these?

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Post by Blackthorn »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #56
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #14

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That's good to know my retirement plan will keep me looking young.

Bad plan Cat food is incredibly expensive!

Inflation is a funny thing. I once had a fencing coach who ate cat food because it was cheap and the school didn't pay him a living wage.
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