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Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Taurine? I've been jacking myself full of that since Middle School! Thanks RedBull! Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you " In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it.

> Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you" In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it.

I mean, pinot noir has a lot of resveratrol. You'd just need 750-1000 glasses daily.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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I know I won't change anyone's already set opinions here, but for anyone reading this and not sure what is being discussed: there's absolutely nothing wrong with consuming sucralose.

You don't know this! I don't take issue with you consuming it but you absolutely shouldn't have confidence that there aren't negative effects from consuming something humans never had to adapt to. Just say "we don't know of anything wrong with consuming it"

These artificial sweeteners are among the most studied chemicals in the world. At some point you've gotta say okay, they're fine, or okay, they're not.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

#63

Taurine? I've been jacking myself full of that since Middle School! Thanks RedBull! Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you " In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it.

Can't stop laughing. The day after is terrible, but with the aging factor relevated - here is the recipe of favorite anti-aging cocktail Jäger Bomb Ingredients 1 1/2 ounces Jägermeister Liqueur 1/2 (8.4-ounce) can Red Bull energy drink https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713

or a nice steak. 1 - 14oz steak, season with tiptop steak seasoning, grill 3-4mins per side on med heat. let rest 5 mins. enjoy.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Interesting, so Red Bull is actually healthy?

Anecdata: a heavy (2 x 8oz cans/day) consumer of Red Bull I got sleep problems starting around 34. Can't be sure they are related, but Red Bull is definitely the main suspect.

And do you suspect the taurine, or the caffeine?

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Hey, if you've found it's bad for you, then by all means don't consume it! The nice thing about sweeteners, unlike a lot of other food stuff, is that there's a lot of options out there.

Yes, I know this. However you're making the blanket statement that it's harmless, and I simply have to push back on that. If it affected me this negatively, it's surely causing harm to others.

I mean my wife is allergic to lactose, but I wouldn't say lactose is anything but generally harmless.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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In the study mice were given 1000 mg taurine per kg body weight per day. In comparison a typical taurine supplement for humans is 1000 mg total . IOW they gave the mice a dose of taurine that, proportionally, i'd be unwilling to take.

You don't directly convert dosage across species like that. The dosage they tested on monkeys was 250mg/kg, and the human equivalent would be less than that.

The basic formula from mouse to human is (X mg * (3/37)) = human equivalent dose in mg/kg.

In this case (1000mg * 3/37)) comes out to 81mg/kg. So, if you weigh 80kg, it comes out to 6.48 grams per day.

That's a lot of taurine, but not really a crazy amount. Easy enough to consume.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

#67
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They fed mice 1g taurine per 1kg body weight per day. For me that would be 80g per day. 1kg of pure taurine cost 25€ on Amazon. That makes a 1.20€ per day. Sounds okay.

After scaling, it comes out to 6.5 grams per day. (See my comment above.)

DO NOT take 80g taurine in a day. You probably won't die, but it's a terrible idea.

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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They fed mice 1g taurine per 1kg body weight per day. For me that would be 80g per day. 1kg of pure taurine cost 25€ on Amazon. That makes a 1.20€ per day. Sounds okay.

After scaling, it comes out to 6.5 grams per day. (See my comment above.) DO NOT take 80g taurine in a day. You probably won't die, but it's a terrible idea.

:D

I wouldn't.

I just evaluated how much it could cost to gain a few years.

But thanks!

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't directly convert dosage across species like that. The dosage they tested on monkeys was 250mg/kg, and the human equivalent would be less than that.

The basic formula from mouse to human is (X mg * (3/37)) = human equivalent dose in mg/kg. In this case (1000mg * 3/37)) comes out to 81mg/kg. So, if you weigh 80kg, it comes out to 6.48 grams per day. That's a lot of taurine, but not really a crazy amount. Easy enough to consume.

Is there a precise biological explanation for that factor, e.g. metabolism rate or something?

Re: Taurine deficiency as a driver of aging

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Was actually needing some caffeine to up me toda. I debated having a sugar free Red Bull but even the sugar free ones are not great for you due to the sucralose

I know I won't change anyone's already set opinions here, but for anyone reading this and not sure what is being discussed: there's absolutely nothing wrong with consuming sucralose.

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